Thursday, January 3, 2019

Beatrice & Virgil—due March 28

Does this novel compare with Life of Pi? Reply with 150+ words.

94 comments:

Anonymous said...

Ask 7

Beatrice and Virgil compare to Life of Pi in a couple of unique ways, but the main one that stuck out to me was the use of animals in each of the stories. In both of the stories, animals are used uniquely. In Life of Pi Yann Martel uses the animals to tell a story, so he doesn’t have to tell you a gory tale. Pi’s story is told through a way in which it gives some of the details, but it doesn’t give gory details. The use of animals is to take the bloody part out of the story. Even though the book is written for adults, he still adds animals in it because anyone would rather hear the animals story than the gory tale. This can even be backed up by the book. On page 317 it goes on about why he used animals instead of using the real story. Pi says, “So tell me, since it makes no factual difference to you and you can’t prove the question either way, which story do you prefer? Which is the better story, the story with animals or the story without animals?” Mr. Okamoto responds with, “That’s an interesting question…” Then rapidly Mr. Chiba replies with, “The story with animals.” Then Mr. Okamoto agrees and says, “The story with animals is the better story.” This shows that Yann Martel clearly stated that the reason he used animals in the story isn’t to make the book a kids book instead it is to add a different way of telling a story, and it helps lighten the mood so the book isn’t so gory. In the book Beatrice and Virgil, Yann Martel has the same meaning he did when writing the book Life of Pi. Yann Martel wanted to spread the same messages with animals in both books. In both books, he tried to use animals to help make the stories less gory. If the books were gory readers wouldn’t want to read it so Yann Martel made it with animals so readers can/want to read it and also have to analyze it more than just plainly stating what happened.

Rima 5 said...

I believe that this novel should not be compared to Life of Pi. Although both are written by Yann Martel, these novels writing styles are not the same. The similarities I saw between the two novels however were their themes and small hints that they have the same author. The themes that I have noticed thus far in Beatrice and Virgil center around companionship and honesty. I found these same themes in Life of Pi even though they focus in on an individual. I look forward to watching more themes arise in Beatrice and Virgil. While reading Life of Pi, many of my fellow classmates and I noted on the long listing tactics and characters thoughts being shown through in a way that felt more than realistic. This is the most significant comparision I noticed between Martel’s novels. As I felt Pi’s words and feelings travel into my subconscious, I feel them travel out again with Beatrice and Virgil; not only from the writing styles, but also from the way Martel forces us to feel more than we imagined we could.

7 Moelter said...

I believe that the novel Beatrice and Virgil and the novel Life of Pi should not be compared to each other. Even though the two novels were both written by the same author Yann Martel, I think that the novels both have too unique of a writing style to them. Both of the novels, however, do use some of the same concepts in the writing. For example, Yann Martel always included a gory style of writing when it comes to talking about animals. He uses animals to describe these bloody gruesome scenes, instead of using humans. I feel that he uses animals instead of people because it is easier to talk about animals dying then actual people dying in a story. It makes it more of a universal age of a novel versus only having adults read it. This way most people can read the story without it being too inappropriate for some ages. He used this technique in both novels to lighten up the story detail and not make it so hardcore. Yann Martel used this way to make readers imagine the scene more also to try and figure out the true meaning of what the animals mean and what is actually going on with people.

Anonymous said...

Knutson 2
I believe that Yann Martel’s works of Life of Pi and Beatrice and Virgil compare with one another. They both are alike in one another in which the use of animals plays a large role in the story. Similarly, they both give the animals human characteristics to give the book even more meaning. In Life of Pi, they use the orangutan, zebra, hyena, and tiger to represent the shipwrecked people of the Tsimtsum. Throughout the story, there are many instances when the animals are given characteristics that make them seem like they are human. He uses animals to alleviate the gruesomeness and horridness of the savageness that comes out within the individuals on the boat. Then in Beatrice and Virgil, Martel’s gives names to the orangutan Virgil and the donkey Beatrice. As I am hearing more and more details of the play I am beginning to get the idea that these animals are resembling two people from the Holocaust. They make many references to being starving and finding faith in God to survive. Yann Martel’s makes use of animals because sometimes it is too harsh when it is coming from a human being. That is why both of these stories show similarities to each other due to Yann Martel’s unique style of writing.

Roe 7 said...

I believe that the two works of Yann Martel, Life of Pi and Beatrice and Virgil, should not be compared. In my opinion, Beatrice and Virgil has a very slow start. While Life of Pi is very intriguing and detailed at the beginning. In both of these novels, Yann Martel uses animals in a unique way. I think that Yann Martel is trying to spread a message through his books with the animals. He is able to use animals in order to make the stories less gory and also makes many references to God and finding faith. The way Yann Martel in, Life of Pi, is able to use animals make readers want to keep reading if he were to tell the story with people in place of the animals' no one would want to continue reading because of the gory details he writes with. Although both of these novels are written by the same man they are dramatically different.

Anonymous said...

Glen 2

I think that the novel of Beatrice & Virgil compares with Life of Pi. This is because both novels have animals that symbolize something much bigger than just the animals in the story. In Life of Pi, the animals represent the cook, sailor, Pi’s mom, and Pi himself. However, in Beatrice & Virgil, the animals display life and death (to me). I believe that the story is based upon the Holocaust, similar to the story that was written by Henry the first time his book was published (and then criticized by the publishers). I believe that he used animals in the stories to make both books appear to be less gory to the audience since one book was written specifically for younger readers. However, I also think that this novel contrasts with Life of Pi. For example, the animals in Beatrice and Virgil do not specifically represent individuals that are important in Henry’s life. Both novels appear to have different types of writing style, which are vastly different from one another.

Bailey 1 said...

I can’t think of any way that this novel compares with Life of Pi. Other than the varying chapter lengths, I can’t seem to understand why this novel would compare to a story about a boy stranded at sea with a tiger. Granted, I’m only on page 44 so I can’t compare these two novels together yet. The details of each book are very descriptive. Yann Martell does a good job describing the settings and what is going on when there is very little dialogue. On the back is a description of what is going to happen in Beatrice and Virgil. Just now, I learned that Beatrice and Virgil aren’t humans, but they are actually animals. A donkey (Beatrice) and a howler monkey (Virgil) to be exact. This is a major comparison between Life of Pi and Beatrice and Virgil. Martell, in both novels, uses animals to tell a story.

Anonymous said...

Reinschmidt 5
While reading the first half of Beatrice and Virgil, it was noticeable to me that they are written by the same author. The major way they compare to one another is their use of animals playing a big role in the novels. Each novel has animals that represent more than just what type of creature they are. Yann Martel successfully gives each animal human characteristics to tell a deeper story and share meaning. Although they compare immensely with using animal characters, they also compare in a way that makes you think. In Life of Pi, we were forced to choose which story to believe and what we wanted to believe. Now in Beatrice and Virgil, we are forced to dive deeper into the meaning which comes from the animals and their settings. Reading more into their setting, the countries he chose to mention, and the stripes, one could come to the realization that this could once again be a horrific story, not about a young man at sea, but about the torturous acts of the Holocaust. I am interested to continue reading Beatrice and Virgil to see what other ideas Yann Martel has while he writes using the acts of animal.

Mork 1 said...

Life of Pi can be compared to Beatrice and Virgil because of the animals. Beatrice and Virgil are a donkey and a howler monkey, and there were many different animals in Life of Pi. I have not read the whole book of Beatrice and Virgil yet, but so far, I do not like it as much as I enjoyed reading Life of Pi. Life of Pi was like a story, but the book Beatrice and Virgil seems to be all over the place. I think Beatrice and Virgil is a much harder book to read because I am having trouble following the story. When I read Life of Pi, it was easy to get engrossed in the story and want to keep reading to see what happens, but that just hasn’t happened with Beatrice and Virgil because it is so hard for me to follow what is going on. Overall, comparing these two books, I liked Life of Pi a lot more than Beatrice and Virgil.

Thompson 2 said...

Beatrice & Virgil does compare with the writing of Life of Pi by relating the human characters to animals. Using animals instead of people attracts readers by not having a normal story. Surviving on a lifeboat with a tiger is more interesting than being alone. Yann Martel wrote this book as a way to hide the Holocaust by having it be about a taxidermist and an author. While reading the book, I found it hard to relate the story to the Holocaust because the details were hidden very well. I find it hard to pick out all the details and to decipher what they mean, like, during the forum, somebody mentioned the address of the shop is the date Hitler came to power. I did not know this, so it was hard to pick out. The difference between these two books is that I like Life of Pi better than Beatrice & Virgil. I was able to read Life of Pi faster because I was more intrigued by the story and what was going to happen next.

5 Andresen said...

Life of Pi and Beatrice and Virgil have a lot of similarities but I have also noticed several differences. Right away the reader can see the use of animals in the story. Starting with Life of Pi the entire story is about Pi being raised with animals and even mirroring himself to be an animal. In Beatrice and Virgil, the animals also play a key role. As far as I have read the major scenes have been inside the taxidermy place. The difference here is that in Life of Pi the animals are alive and in the zoo and in Beatrice and Virgil the animals are all dead and “preserved or stuff.” A difference that I do not like or understand is that in Life of Pi the chapters are so short and often times it is not uncommon to find 2 or 3 chapters on a single page but in Beatrice and Virgil, there are no chapters! Overall, the difference and similarities are easy to find and I will find more as I continue to read this book.

Anonymous said...

5 Bunker
While reading Beatrice and Virgil I have noticed lots of similarities between the two books. In both Life of Pi and Beatrice and Virgil, animals are used to help tell the story. Both books use animals to represent a deeper meaning. He uses the animals to hide the savage and beast-like side of humans. Using animals to represent humans makes us dive deeper into the characters and think more about their true meanings. He also uses lists within his writing quite often. In Beatrice and Virgil, he uses a list to say all the animals in the taxidermy. In Life of Pi, he uses extensive lists to explain the zoo and to list off what was on the lifeboat. He also explains even the littlest things with lots of detail. While reading these stories I have been confused as of why he would do this, but later in the story these details help you understand the story.

DeSmet 5 said...

As far as interest and enjoyment go, these books do not compare for me. Life of Pi drew me in from the beginning and I wanted to keep reading it; it was an enjoyable experience. Beatrice and Virgil is less interesting to me so far and I am having a much harder time getting through it. I really, really enjoyed Life of Pi, and this book is just not as interesting or enticing to read. Life of Pi jumped right into the action by starting with the unusual authors note. The novel is slower to start, the first twenty or so pages talking about a flip book that was a failure and never published. However, within the plot of the two books, some odd comparisons can be made. Each book has two characters with the same name: two Henrys and two Mr. Kumars. Both books contain a rather complex and meta approach to having an author within the book. Both novels also contain a LOT of animals and both specifically mention a zebra leg. And, obviously, both books are very, very detailed. Martel did a great job with both novels and there are connections within the plot, but in my opinion, Life of Pi is better.

Reindl 1 said...

Both Life of Pi and Beatrice and Virgil are completely unique stories in their own aspects. I believe that the two do compare in some ways as well. Thus far, in terms of use of animals, Life of Pi takes the cake simply because of all of the time put into it with explaining the zoological ideologies that allow the story to take place in the first place. Beatrice and Virgil have, up to this point, used animals very minimally. Both stories are about animals, but one is of alive animals that pose a threat to the main protagonist and the other is about dead animals and a taxidermist trying to write a play about two specific dead animals. In terms of realism, they are both incredibly realistic when compared to the other stories that we have read throughout the semester, but I think that Beatrice and Virgil is much more of a realistic novel because of how vague the setting is in that it can be in any city, and it is much more likely to happen than an Indian boy getting stuck in the middle of the Pacific Ocean with an adult male Bengal Tiger.

Anonymous said...

Geringer 1
So far, the only similarity I am seeing with Life of Pi and Beatrice and Virgil is there are animals in both stories. I really enjoyed Life of Pi, but at the moment I am not a huge fan of Beatrice and Virgil. I understand what is going on in the book, I just do not understand why. In Life of Pi, I knew the ending before the beginning of Pi’s story, so I was constantly asking myself questions along the way, and it made me want to read more and more to answer the questions I had. However, I do not know the ending of Beatrice and Virgil, so the only questions I am asking at this point in the novel is why? I do not understand why the things that are happening, are happening. I’m hoping the story will eventually start to make sense, and I’m excited for that moment.

Anonymous said...

1 Johnson
In my opinion, Life of Pi and Beatrice and Virgil compare in some ways. The first way I see they fit together is the use of animals. In Life of Pi he uses a tiger and in Beatrice and Virgil, he uses a monkey and a donkey. I think the use of animals is very interesting because it adds a whole new element to the book and helps develop more characters throughout the book. Life of Pi and Beatrice and Virgil also compare in that they use a writer writing about a story in the book. This really makes the books interesting because it gives two different points of view on what is going on in the story. However, I don't believe that Beatrice and Virgil can be compared to Life of Pi because one is about a very serious matter in the Holocaust while the other is dealing with possibly a mystical story with a tiger. Also, Beatrice and Virgil does not run the same way Life of Pi does. One thing I wonder about in Beatrice and Virgil is, the taxidermist a former Nazi and now does taxidermy? I get this feeling because I feel like he stuffs a ton of animals to try and fulfill the number of people that he possibly watched die during the Holocaust. In Life of Pi, I am still wondering which story is the real one and it keeps my mind going that it could be either one.

Anonymous said...

DeWitt 1

To me, this novel compares to Life of Pi in many ways except enjoyment. Within both Life of Pi and Beatrice and Virgil, animals are used to represent people. In Life of Pi, the tiger represents Pi himself. In Beatrice and Virgil, the monkey may be related to a Jew during the Holocaust. Also, in both novels, the animals are placed in the story to try and cope with the horrible experiences the character telling the story had. Pi does not want to remember the awful things that happened on the lifeboat so he changes the people to animals to make the savagery more appealing. In Beatrice and Virgil, the monkey and donkey are used to replace people in a more tragic setting, the Holocaust. Although we don't quite know who the monkey and donkey represent yet, we can infer through context clues that they are most likely a Jew and maybe a Nazi. The two novels compare with how they are telling the story of tragedy through animals but they do not compare in status. Life of Pi was enthralling and held me in awe of the ending. I was amazed by the way the story was written and how the novel gave a feel that it was a true story. By not giving the author a name, it seemed to me that the author was Yann Martel himself speaking to the readers. However in Beatrice and Virgil, the we figure out the authors name and so we know it is not Yann Martel, getting rid of the feeling that this could be a true story. The readers then lose the appeal to sit through countless exposition and explanation into the authors life. the readers who have read Life of Pi are waiting for the action that was in Life of Pi to come out into Beatrice in Virgil, but only receiving hints as to what the taxadermist could be, the readers lost interest in what is about to happen next. Beatrice and Virgil gives me a boy who cried wolf vibe and after so much hinting at who the taxadermist is, I lose interest in what is about to happen next, thinking that they will never tell us at all.

Anonymous said...

Frantzen 1
In some ways, Beatrice and Virgil does compare to Life of Pi and in some ways it does not. Yann Martel uses the personification of animals in both of these stories to give us a sense of relaxation. If there was not a real tiger in the Life of Pi then we know for certain why he used animals. He used animals to make the story less horrific because people do not want to hear about people eating each other and getting their head cut off. Martel also uses animals to lessen the blow of the Holocaust. Many people do not want to speak and really except the fact of the Holocaust so he used animals to minimize the horror of the Holocaust. Although it is the same in this way one major difference between these two books is that the Life of Pi is more structured had has a great storyline where Beatrice and Virgil is a lot more sporadic and up for our own interpretation.

Flanigan Pd. 1 said...

Thus far, I do not find many similarities between Life of Pi, and Beatrice and Virgil. Though it is evident that Yann Martel is the author of both works, being intricately involved with each book, the storylines and even the writing styles differ too greatly to consider them closely related. The only basic similarity that can be extracted from the two would be the obvious role of animals in each novel. However, in Life of Pi, it can not be determined as to whether or not the animals that supposedly accompanied Pi were even real, whereas in Beatrice and Virgil, though they are not alive and well, the animals in the story are tactile. It seems as though the entire message of each novel does not compare at all. For example, Life of Pi is all about discovering one’s truth and expanding the mind's ability to believe, whereas Beatrice and Virgil seems to be an obvious allegory to a true historical event created to open the eyes of the audience and fill them with intrigue. The differences in these two novels make me respect Yann Martel to a greater extreme, as I am able to see his ability to create different works and expand his writing abilities.

Loosbrock 1 said...

For all that it’s worth, I would say that even though I enjoyed Life of Pi more than Beatrice and Virgil, the derived meaning of the latter was, to me, far more impactful. Life of Pi, after 100 or so pages of exposition, became an incredibly entertaining novel that I struggled to put down. The pacing was fantastic, the subject matter was unique, and the action of the story kept me tuned in. Unfortunately, I found the themes of the novel to be dull and at times moronic. As a strongly secular individual, the idea of holding faith in faith, wanting to believe for the sake of belief, is frankly stupid. Despite this shortcoming, I can say with certainty that Life of Pi was an enjoyable read. I am somewhat conflicted when it comes to Beatrice and Virgil; the roundabout writing style and violently unique presentation were both fantastic and made me trudge through the novel, at times even going far enough to skim the book rather than closely reading, yet through this monotony of writing I found the subject matter and derived meaning infinitely more powerful than Life of Pi. The first half of Beatrice and Virgil left me frustrated and annoyed through what I would denounce as poor writing, yet the second half fully redeemed the novel for me. It’s a difficult choice, but I can honestly state that I found Beatrice and Virgil to be a far more impactful novel than Life of Pi.

Rief 1 said...

Beatrice and Virgil can compare with Life of Pi in some ways. When I think of the book Life of Pi only two things come to my mind: Pi and animals. In the story Life of Pi, Pi's family owns a zoo and they eventually try to move their zoo instead of having it in India. The voyage across the ocean, unfortunately, does not work them entirely and results in the family losing nearly all their animals and the passengers on the ship. The story continues with Pi and tiger stuck on a ship together. In the novel Beatrice and Virgil, one of the main charters is a taxidermist. He has all sorts of animals in his shop that he has worked on over the years. You could compare that both stories relate to animals in some type of way. As far as plot goes, the two novels cannot compare. You got two totally different stories being told. Life of Pi mentioning a zoo, ship, and lifeboats. Beatrice and Virgil dealing with poems, a taxidermist, and a creepy man. So you can compare that the novels are alike in a few ways but they also compare in dramatically different ways.

taylor brummels said...

Brummels 1
I feel like there are some differences between Yann Martel’s novels, but at the same time, there are many similarities. In both novels, animals are used to represent something in their own unique way. In Beatrice and Virgil, the meaning behind the story and what is going on is less clear than it is in Life of Pi. I thought that I could follow Life of Pi a little more than I could follow Beatrice and Virgil. What was going on in Life of Pi was easier to understand that what is going on in Beatrice and Virgil, but that may just be me. The forum yesterday was helpful though, to see what the meaning behind things was. They are both really gloomy books. In Life of Pi, one of the Japanese men that came to question Pi said that stories are better with animals in them. That could be a way for Martel to tell us that he likes the stories that he writes to have animals in them.

Blok 1 said...

Whilst reading the first half of Beatrice and Virgil, several connections began to form between it and Yann Martel's Life of Pi. The first connection I observed was the presence of animals throughout. In both novels, animals play an integral part in the plot whether dead or alive, fictional or physical. For example, Richard Parker is one of the reasons why Pi is able to survive on the lifeboat simply because he was a companion and something to interact with rather than just himself. Likewise, the animals at the taxidermy shop seem to be Henry's companions and are keeping him as sharp as he is. It was also interesting to me how in both novels, Yann does not remain completely grounded to one narrator. In Life of Pi, the story jumps between Pi as the narrator and the author as the narrator. Beatrice and Virgil are similar but not identical. in Beatrice and Virgil, the plot jumps between the story written by Henry about Beatrice and Virgil and a particular story about Henry himself.

Moschell 1 said...

Beatrice and Virgil does compare with Life of Pi. Both started with a really descriptive beginning before they got to the point of the story. Unlike Life of Pi, I do not know what the main part of Beatrice and Virgil is so I have more curiosity about what is happening in the book. I want to keep reading in a different way than I did with Life of Pi. Now that I know what Yann Martel's writing style is, I am sure this book will get better. Not knowing how the story ended before reading the book also changes my views on going into this book. I knew the end of Life of Pi, but did not know the beginning and middle part. I was intrigued to learn what the rest of the book had in store for me. Going into Beatrice and Virgil I had no idea what to expect besides that it was related to the Holocaust because of the “games” at the end of the book. Therefore, I was expecting a holocaust book not a story about two different men who are trying to write about the Holocaust and only reading small parts of an allegorical play.

Niewenhuis 1 said...

I believe that Life of Pie and Beatrice and Virgil compare very closely. In both of Martel's novels, he uses animals in place of people to show a certain meaning in the book. In Life of Pie, he used a Tiger, a zebra, a hyena, and an orangutang to represent certain people on the boat. He gives the animals human-like qualities and he then uses the animal to cover up all the horrible things that he and the other people did on the raft. So fare in Beatrice and Virgil it seems to be somewhat of the same idea. I believe that Martel is using the donkey (Beatrice) and the monkey (Virgil) to represent Jews from the Holocaust in the story. In both novels, he also uses a very unique style of writing which make both seem similar. He uses a lot of descriptive languages and describes things in great making a very vivid picture. He also listed out a lot of things in both.

Anonymous said...

Graber 2
There are a few similarities and differences in Beatrice and Virgil and Life of Pi. One of the most obvious similarities is the use of animals in each novel. The animals are used as symbols of people in my eyes. The donkey and monkey represent humans that were in the Holocaust. It was just a less intense way to put it. That way children could read Henry’s book. One of the differences is that Life of Pi is separated into chapters and Beatrice and Virgil is not separated in chapters. I like the separation of chapters because I feel like it’s more organized and easy to read. I do think that the use of a flowing novel made it sound like a play in Beatrice and Virgil. I think the writing style that Yann uses is different in each book. I like how Life of Pi is narrated better than Beatrice and Virgil. It is easier to follow and keeps you on the edge of your chair the whole time. In contrast, Beatrice and Virgil thus far is slower moving which makes it harder to follow. Both are great novels though.

Pieper 2 said...

Beatrice and Virgil has many similarities to Life of Pi. They were both written by the same author and share a lot of the same kinds of nuances. They both are allegorical novels that use animals to tell difficult stories. The animals lighten the mood of the stories and make the hard topics easier to understand and consume. They both have authors in the book who are writing a book themselves and resemble the real author, Yann Martel. They also talk about zoos. But, they each take a different viewpoint. In Life of Pi, Pi loved zoos and even lived in one for the younger years of his life. However, in Beatrice and Virgil, the taxidermist talks about how he doesn’t like zoos at all. It is interesting that the novels, so similar, discuss two similar points in different contexts. Both novels use a lot of description to describe even the most minuscule of things. What I like most about the novels is that they use small details as larger meanings. They both make you think and expand your mind to understand. Everything in both books has a meaning and nothing it just a coincidence.

Anonymous said...

Grode 2

The novel Beatrice and Virgil does compare with Life of Pi in many ways. The most obvious being that the stories revolve around animals to tell the story. While the animals are used to tell completely different stories, they are still comparable in that way. Another is how an author is involved. In Life of Pi, an author is interviewing an older, more wise Pi, and in Beatrice and Virgil, the author is the main character. Both of these authors probably in some represent Yann Martel’s real-life experiences. Another way to compare the books is the actual way the story is told. In both books, the story is not what is happening in the current time, but another device is used to tell the actual story. In Beatrice and Virgil, the story of the Holocaust is told through a play, and in Life of Pi, it is told through an interview and is more of a memoir than anything else.

Anonymous said...

Huntimer 2
Beatrice and Virgil is an eerie novel that poses a very philosophical viewpoint on one of the world's worst tragedy. Yann Martel has the ability to capture the reader’s attention causing you to continue reading for hours. Life of Pi and Beatrice and Virgil are both parallel works of literature that live in completely different universes; comparing the two is very difficult. Life of Pi taught the reader about hope and human nature while Beatrice and Virgil has hidden symbolism that teaches us to learn from our past. I noticed that in Martel’s Life of Pi, the novel was very pro-zoos; however, in Beatrice and Virgil, the Taxidermist, Henry, is very anti-zoo. Life of Pi views zoos as another habitat for an animal that is a substitute for the real world; however, Beatrice and Virgil view zoos as prisons that hinder an animal to be free (similar to concentration camps in the Holocaust). Both novels are equally astonishing with symbolism that causes the reader to think about their life morals. I enjoy the imagery and story line of Life of Pi, but I like the hidden meanings and symbolism of Beatrice and Virgil.

Weber 2 said...

I do not think Beatrice and Virgil should be compared to Life of Pi. Although both written by Yann Martel, they are written in different ways. Life of Pi consists of short chapters that tie the story together by covering little part of Pi’s journey on the Pacific Ocean. Martel puts a twist on the story by inserting the thoughts of the author who is interviewing Pi into his recollection. This way, the reteller of Pi’s story can clarify some things maybe not understood at first. Beatrice and Virgil is written in a completely different way. Instead of sectioning the book off into different chapters, Martel decided to let the whole book flow together as one, besides the occasional pause between scenes. Yann Martel, between Beatrice and Virgil and Life of Pi, has shown us his efforts as a dynamic author that can compose in different creative ways. I like Martel as an author and appreciate his role in literature.

Runia 2 said...

Runia 2

There are some similarities between Life of Pi and Beatrice and Virgil. First of all, Yann Martel writes very descriptively in both novels. He describes events and places so well, that readers can almost imagine that they are within the story. For example, when the lifeboat in Life of Pi is described, it can be pictured within the mind just as how the taxidermy shop can be pictured in one's mind as well. Another comparison is Martel's fascination with writing about animals. In Life of Pi, the story was mostly about Richard Parker, the tiger, and Pi on the life raft. Beatrice and Virgil is also about animals where two of the main characters are a donkey and a monkey. One of the major differences between the two novels is that Life of Pi is separated into parts and chapters while Beatrice and Virgil is not. There must be a reason behind this decision, either to make the story flow better or some other reason that still must be interpreted.

Anonymous said...


Bickley Pd.2
The novel Beatrice and Virgil compares to Life of Pi in many more ways than expected. Yann Martel displays a character in need of telling a story in both of his novels. In Life of Pi, Pi Patel tells his story of surviving on a lifeboat for 227 days to an interviewer. His story reveals a lot about his imagination as well as his struggle to let go of things that happened during his journey in the middle of the ocean. In Beatrice and Virgil, Henry the taxidermist tries to tell his story through writing a play in which Henry the writer helps him with. The taxidermist appears to be hiding something about himself that he is trying to reveal through his play with the two animals, Beatrice and Virgil. Also, Martel uses animals to help the characters tell their story to others. Pi used animals to tell his story because it helped him face the reality of his family being dead and the horrific events that happened on the lifeboat. The taxidermist uses animals to tell his story because of the horrendous events that took place and the actions used against those animals that represent people at the concentration camps during the Holocaust. Martel uses some of the same techniques in these two novels; however, the two novels vary greatly in plot and meaning.

Anonymous said...

Law 2
Personally, I believe that this novel is very similar to the life of Pi for many reasons. In both stories, Yann Martel uses animals to represent people to create more of a story and not so much a historical event per se. It makes people think and ponder to believe what is reality and what is fake. The animals from both stories also represent a tragic event in life that would be hard to retell if real people or characters were being used. Not to mention both stories are told from an outside perspective, both writers to be exact. In Life of Pi, it is a writer that interviews Pi of his tragic story of being lost at sea to write it and make it into a story. The novel Beatrice and Virgil have a very similar set up instead it is a retired writer that meets another man who wants to write about a play on the same topic as his rejected book. Both stories together hold a much deeper meaning than what is first being presented. They both take a great amount of analyzation while also pulling at the heartstrings of readers. I would say that both of these stories are more alike than not.

Anonymous said...

Larson 2

I believe the two novels, Life of Pi and Beatrice and Virgil, should not be compared to each other. There a few characteristics that can be compared, however. As seen in both novels, the characters are taken place by animals which I think is a unique way to write a book. Also, both books include a tragedy. Besides the few same details, the two books are written differently. Life of Pi engages the reader right off the bat. It hints at the tragedy and therefore makes the reader want to read more and influences them to do so. In Beatrice and Virgil, the book has a slower start and does not really set up the book to what it might truly be about. Whether that was intentional or not, it was not as engaging as the other novel. Life of Pi is written in a way where a story is not true and did not happen and Beatrice and Virgil is a book about a person that was a part of the Holocaust and how that experience could have changed them for the worst. Although the story is not true, it gives us an insight into what more than likely happened to most people that were involved in the Holocaust. The two novels compare in author’s but do not compare in stories being told.

Anonymous said...

Brown 2

Beatrice and Virgil compares with Life of Pi in a couple of ways in a literary sense. The novel uses animals again to symbolize a storyline in a manner that is more fantastic than if it is done simply by humans. The animal use in both helps to build the story up, and express a fantastical view of an otherwise hard to tell a story such as the Holocaust or murder in both books. Both of the novels hold a similar pace. In both novels, the plotline starts slow and takes time to build up to the point of action. Once we reach the point of action, the reader gets more insight into the symbolism of Martel’s message he is trying to give with the novel. In a sense of success and readability, I believe that there is no comparison between the two novels. The plot of Life of Pi is much more interesting and much less forced than Beatrice and Virgil. By forcing the symbolism, I believe it is much less effective and does not evoke deeper thinking.

Behrens 7 said...

I believe that the novel Life of Pi and Beatrice and Virgil do not compare because Yann Martel’s Life of PI is a lot more gruesome than Beatrice and Virgil. In Beatrice and Virgil Yann Martel sugar coats everything. He doesn’t directly state what the animals are symbolizing or what the pear and banana symbolize. This makes the reader want to keep reading to figure out what the banana and pear symbolize which is why this book is very tricky to figure out. Life of Pi was also very tricky to figure out but Martel left it up to the reader to determine if their was actually a tiger in the story. In Life of Pi Yann Martel clearly stated that the Richard Parker was Pi and that Orange Juice was his mother. I feel that Yann Martel wanted to leave on a softer note after writing The Life of Pi. I also feel that he didn’t want to write all gruesome books he wanted to have a variety to keep readers wanting to buy his books.

Anonymous said...

There are many parallels that can be drawn when studying Yann Martel's "Beatrice and Virgil" and "Life of Pi". One of the most obvious ways that readers can relate these works is the use of the main characters portrayed as animals. I think that the reason Martel does this is to explain problems and events different than how a reader would expect something to happen. Martel uses the characteristics of animals to enhance an idea that can be related to humans. In "Life of Pi" Richard Parker serves as an example of the savage side of Pi that is essential for his survival. In Beatrice and Virgil, I think that he uses animals to paint the picture of what it was like in the Holocaust without having to depict the trauma that humans would have experienced. In both stories there are traumatic events that use non-human victims. Another interesting similarity between the two is that they are stories within stories both being told by an author.

Hanson 5 said...

Beatrice and Virgil compares to Life of Pi in few distinct ways. Obviously, both of these novels contain essential characters that are animals. Richard Parker, Orange Juice, and all of the other animals at the zoo from Life of Pi are examples of animals within the story. All animals are alive within Life of Pi. All of the animals in Beatrice and Virgil are stuffed, dead figures that have been preserved nicely. There is more to the comparison to animals in both stories other than the fact that they both contain animals. The animals in both stories are symbolic of humans, Martel uses these animals as symbols to represent a horrific story with less intense emotion because they are just animals, right? Since Beatrice and Virgil was written after Life of Pi, I believe that Martel made the animals petrified for a reason. Maybe he is trying to freeze time when he was most successful, when the animals were alive. Life of Pi was certainly his more successful novel, so maybe he is simply trying to freeze the moment of his success?

1 Crapser said...

I feel as though in comparison to Life of Pi. A person must give Beatrice and Virgil more time to grow on you. The first half of Beatrice and Virgil is staler and harder to read, as we progress into the story a hidden message begins to appear. This is something that is shocking for readers. It brings into life this beautiful hidden story that was taking place without a person realizing. This is different than Life of Pi, whereas you know the story as it is happening. Yes, there are hidden meanings and a story that is unseen at first but less so than in Beatrice and Virgil. I think that both stories use animals to tell a story without bias. That is something that is important to understand. With taking out a bias or you can tell a story without having worry about anything with it overall. This is how the two stories are similar.

Anonymous said...

Olivier 5
Yann Martel's novels Life of Pi and Beatrice and Virgil are very similar, he obviously has the same writing style in both works. Martel's use of animals in both of the books is for the same reason, in Life of Pi it is to cover up tragedy on Pi's part and in Beatrice and Virgil. In both works, there is an author, much like Martel, who interviews and talks with a character that is essentially writing the novel/explaining it for him to write. The animals in both books are often cited in lengthy lists for the reader to understand. These lists are not necessary and can be a little tough to keep reading through but it shows that Martel carries his distinct writing style with him from novel to novel. I personally like Life of Pi more than Beatrice and Virgil because there was more action, but I might change my mind as the novel progresses.

Dean (Coyle) 1 said...

Between the two stories, I feel that the differences outweigh the similarities. In Beatrice and Virgil as well as Life of Pi, Yann Martel uses animal's to depict an underlying meaning or another person. Yann Martel made both stories up to the reader's interpretations. Neither of the stories gives a clear answer to what message he is trying to convey or, in the case of Life of Pi, which story is truly correct and which is fabricated for effect. In Beatrice and Virgil, the message behind the animal characters seems to have a much darker and serious background than that of Life of Pi. In Life of Pi, Richard Parker merely represented Pi himself whereas, in Beatrice and Virgil, my theory is that they are meant to be seen as Holocaust victims. Beatrice and Virgil has less of an obvious connection, there are small hints left throughout the book to lead you to the conclusion. I also feel that the story in Life of Pi was much simpler and easier to follow than Beatrice and Virgil. Without all of the underlying hints, the symbolism and the connections were much clearer.

Anonymous said...

Harvison 1
Beatrice and Virgil may not be at all a survival story and has a very different plot than Life of Pi, however, similarities can still be made. First off with a slight one, the overall read of the story. Each book was written by Yann Martel, and after reading Life of Pi first, I thought there was a similarity in how the book flowed and overall sentence structure. Also, he uses animals to connect deeper meanings. His reasoning for this I am not quite sure, but I would guess that it is easier as a reader to get into the story because animals come without stereotypes surrounding them, thus allowing Yann Martel to go in any direction with any character (animals included). Also in Beatrice and Virgil, he talks about his past success as an author and how he wrote about some gruesomeness with animals, this is clearly a nod to Life of Pi, as he almost perfectly describes that book.

Paul 5 said...

In my opinion, I do not think that Life of Pi and Beatrice and Virgil are comparable. Although both are about or relate to animals in some way, the writing style is completely different. Even the setup of the chapters are arranged differently going from one hundred chapters to one. The only similarity I see is that there is a lot of describing throughout both of these books. Yann Martel frequently uses pages to describe a simple object such as a pear to really allow the reader to understand what it is being described. I also find them somewhat similar as neither story was intended to be read for the obvious interpretation. Both the stories require analysis and deeper thinking to really understand what Yann Martel was doing when he was writing these novels. I am interested to see if I see more similarities as I complete Beatrice and Virgil.

Anonymous said...

Burchill 5

I think this book relates to Life of Pi simply because Yann Martel wrote both of them. Not all authors are like this, and many others can write books in the extreme opposite of what they have written before, in language, construction, setting, everything. However, I believe that while Yann Martel expands his works and writes more books, his mind exists in sort of an area between everything he has written. He takes pieces of who he is and puts them in everything he writes, and so you can see the similarities in the books and connect the characters and the world of the story. Reading Life of Pi, you see animals, a character of many cultures, and Canada. In B&V, you see, again, animals (with a different role, but again representing something important in the story), a character with a background in German, English, and Spanish, showing relation to Yann and Pi, and Canada again. Although the structure of the two books is different, you can see that he places the same emphasis on connection to the character and description of things inside the book. He makes subtle hints to the true meaning of his symbols, but readers will have to wait for the full reveal of the symbolism. In reading B&V, I have been tempted to read Henry as though he is Yann Martel, and the successful book of his, Life of Pi.

5 Duncanson said...

The number of similarities between Beatrice and Virgil and Life of Pi has surprised me. They are both stories that include an author character. Whether it is an author telling someone else’s story or an author trying to help another struggling author. I have also found it interesting that in both books they revolve around animals and using animals to tell human stories. In Life of Pi Yann Martel uses the animals to help Pi cope with his difficult situation and to make the readers think more about what they are reading and what the truth is. In Beatrice and Virgil Martel uses the animals as symbols for the Holocaust and what the victims of the Holocaust went through. The use of animals in both books makes me wonder whether Martel really enjoys animals so he chooses to include them or as a way for the reader to understand and connect with hard situations without making it too depressing and gruesome.

Carson 5 said...

I feel like Life of Pi and Beatrice and Virgil are similar in several aspects, both in story and structure. The way the story is structured throughout Life of Pi breaks the mold in the way that each chapter continues onto the next without a break in pages. I feel that Yann Martel leaned into that aspect of structure in this book by having no chapters at all and the story being a continuous flow. In my opinion, this decision helps the book even more than the way it was in Life of Pi because you never feel like you have to take a break. Both of the novels also center around suffering. In Life of Pi, it is obvious this suffering belongs to Pi himself, but the suffering in Beatrice and Virgil is a little more subtle. At the beginning, the author, Henry, endures immense grief at the failure of his new book. His suffering is then solved by the suffering within the taxidermist's play.

Anonymous said...

Ellingson 5
The detail is significantly the same in Life of Pi and Beatrice and Virgil. You can tell that Yann Martel worked diligently on both of these novels and likes to make you think long and hard about certain aspects of his writing. There are hidden meanings in both novels but more in Beatrice and Virgil. Life of Pi was more plot based and easier to read in my opinion. I do not think these two novels should be compared to one another because although there are similarities in their hidden meanings, each novel has different writing techniques. Life of Pi can attract readers from all age groups and each person can take something different from it. Beatrice and Virgil would not attract as many young readers because it is so confusing and a slow read. Yann Martel does a great job in putting such detail in each story. I could not imagine how long it took to describe that pear. Most of the time I am very confused about what is going on in the current book we are studying. In Life of Pi, I was not as confused.

Anonymous said...

Ackerman 5

Beatrice and Virgil is it’s own unique novel, although, it can be compared with Life of Pi. There are inconsequential things within both novels that can clearly indicate that both are written by Yann Martel. I think the main point of comparison between the two brilliant novels is that they are both largely based on animals, and the animals are given human characteristics. I don’t think the writing style between the two novels, however, is the same. In Life of Pi there were chapter indicators while in Beatrice and Virgil, there are no indications as to where one chapter stops and another begins. The only writing similarity that is clear to me between the two novels is the way Martel uses lists. In Life of Pi, Martel lists very clearly and with great detail, the supplies within the lifeboat that Pi has access to in the same way that he lists the animals that are within the taxidermy store in Beatrice and Virgil.

Rommann 5 said...

Life of Pi and Beatrice and Virgil seem to have many parallels between them. Yann Martel has used animals in both stories to play very similar roles. In Life of Pi, Richard Parker was used as a pivotal character driving the plot—Beatrice, the donkey, and Virgil, the howler monkey, are treated in the same way within Beatrice and Virgil. Personally, I believe that Beatrice and Virgil have more meaning because of the heavy allusions to The Divine Comedy, whereas Life of Pi only lightly references various religions in the context of Pi’s personal religious journey. Another major similarity between the two novels is the use of the author. In both novels, the narrator of the story is, in fact, the author. The major difference between them is Life of Pi pulls you out of the tiger story in order to explain what is going on in the real world while writing and Beatrice and Virgil is being narrated as things are happening in the author’s life.

Anonymous said...

Christensen 5
I think that this novel does compare with Life of Pi in multiple ways. One way is that both stories deal with animals of some kind. In Life of Pi, Pi was telling his story of what happened on the boat using animals such as a tiger, hyena, zebra, and an orangutan. In Beatrice & Virgil, Henry the taxidermist tells his story using a donkey and a howler monkey. One thing that goes along with the animals is that they are put in the stories in place of the humans that were involved. In Life of Pi, there are two possible endings to the story. One involves humans and the other involves animals in place of humans. In Beatrice & Virgil, I think that Henry the taxidermist uses the donkey and the howler monkey in place of him and one other person. We don’t know this for sure, but that is something that I have been thinking about as I have read the book.

Anonymous said...

Peyton 5
Beatrice and Virgil and Life of Pi can be compared in multiple ways and are very similar in some aspects. In both of them, there are hidden symbols and messages that make readers think about what is going on. One of the major glaring similarities I see when studying both of the novels is how Yan Martel uses animals in telling the story. In the Life of Pi, Pi literally tells the whole story with animals instead of humans. Each animal represents a certain person that was part of the story and it almost makes the story much less gruesome and gory. The way Yan Martel did this was amazing because it was hard to believe some of these crazy occurrences happening in the story with the animals but at the end when Pi tells the story with the people instead of the animals it all makes sense and it makes you go back and think of everything that happened except this time with humans. So far in Beatrice and Virgil, Martel has done something very similar where he tells a story with animals instead of humans and they represent something. The use of animals is the most obvious similarity between the two novels.

Scherb 5 said...

I believe that there are certain ways that Beatrice and Virgil compares to Life of Pi, but there are also ways they are complete opposites. Beginning with a simple plot, Life of Pi is far more adventurous and exciting as there are many different events that take place. This is different from Beatrice and Virgil, as so far there are not many events and it is more about detail and explaining little things or the play. There still are some similarities with the ideas of animals and how the book is written. The writing is clearly Yann Martel as the way he explains ideas and structures his book. He also tied in the same author from Life of Pi, Henry, which was an interesting way to connect them. The writing also seems to carry an undertone of trauma and trying to deal with that trauma just in different ways and different events. In these ways, Beatrice and Virgil compares to Life of Pi.

Else 7 said...

I believe Life of Pi and Beatrice and Virgil have similarities but are not necessarily comparable. One way they are similar is how Yann Martel uses animals to tell the story in both novels. Also, the animals that are used tell the story are given human characteristics to make it more relevant to the reader. Another way that these two novels can compare is the fact that they are both written in an interesting way. Life of Pi is written from two different viewpoints, where as Beatrice and Virgil is written as a story within a story, which makes for two interesting novels. However, the novels do differ from one another in some ways. In my opinion, Life of Pi was much easier to follow and more exciting to read. Life of Pi was more intriguing to me as a reader because I was much more excited to find out what happens next.

Anonymous said...

Beatrice and Virgil compare to Life of Pi, but there are also a lot of differences. The two books compare in the way that Yann Martel uses animals to share a story. In both stories, the animals are given human characteristics. They also both have opinions about zoos. In Beatrice and Virgil, Henry is very opposed to them. He describes them as a place where he only goes to do work. However, in Life of Pi, zoos are looked at as a sort of safe haven for the animals since they don’t have to compete with other animals, and they are given food every day. A way they are different is that Life of Pi is way more adventurous and keeps the reader on their toes. Which in Beatrice and Virgil, it allows the reader more time to wonder and think about the plot since a lot of questions have arrived with the presence of the play.

Westcott 7 said...

Life of Pi and Beatrice and Virgil have a few similarities. First, they both use animals to tell stories. Life of Pi had the zoo animals that are commonly used to explain other events happening in the novel, along with a tiger, zebra, monkey, and hyena that are used to possibly represent people in the story of Pi’s life. In Beatrice and Virgil, the donkey and monkey are used to represent aspects of the Holocaust. In both stories, the use of animals is used to tell about horrifying events without making it seem as horrifying so people get something out of it. Both books are also written in a unique style. They don’t come straight out and say something. They make you think about it to find the answer. There is also a lot of descriptive words to make you paint a picture of what is happening in your mind. There are a lot of words that aren’t commonly used in everyday conversations in both books as well.

Lien 7 said...

This novel surprisingly has a lot of similarities to Life of Pie, but I do not think it can be held up to the same level as Life of Pie. I think it is very interesting that he basically inserts himself into each story, not directly of course, but there are obvious comparisons to the author in Life of Pie and to Henry, the author in Beatrice and Virgil. While both pieces of literature have there owned unique aspects and are spectacular pieces of art, I do understand why Life of Pie made such a bigger impact on people then Beatrice and Virgil. Life of Pie is action packed and keeps you on your toes, with an ending that completely mind boggles you. While Beatrice and Virgil is a little slower and harder to get into, but defiantly makes you think. I hope the ending of Beatrice and Virgil is as interesting and exciting as Life of Pie.

Risty 7 said...

While reading this book, I have noticed quite a few similarities between Life of Pi and Beatrice and Virgil. For example, the use of animals throughout the book. In Life of Pi, animals are the most significant and symbolic creatures of the story. Pi uses a tiger, zebra, hyena, and an orangutan to tell his survival story. In Beatrice and Virgil, the taxidermist uses a donkey and a monkey to tell his story. Although the use of animals is significant, Pi grew up in a zoo and developed a loving passion for animals. Meanwhile, the taxidermist in Beatrice and Virgil despises zoos. One thing that Yann Martel likes to do, makes characters represent other objects or people. Currently, in my reading of Beatrice and Virgil, I have been able to make a connection in the characters. While reading this book with the Holocaust in mind, I have recently been comparing the taxidermist to Hitler, the animals to jews, and "we" to the Nazis. These comparisons could eventually change throughout my reading. Although these books have strong similarities, I do not think they should be compared based on how they portray the animals in this book. The two books also have an extremely different plot along with different time frames which makes the two books hard to compare.

Grieme 7 said...

Beatrice and Virgil is very similar to Life of Pi. The overall plot is opposites but many of the ideas and themes in these two books are similar. Yan Martel’s Beatrice and Virgil involves a figure –Henry– who in some respects resembles the author, the same as Pi in Life of Pi. Both books are written in a deceptively light and casual tone. In both books he uses animals as the main characters, and uses them to actually symbolize something more human. In Life of Pi, Richard Parker represents Pi, while in Beatrice and Virgil, the monkey and donkey represent the jews and everyone who was tortured and worse in the Holocaust. There also is some degree of religion in both books. In the play for Beatrice and Virgil, the animals talk about how it is hard to keep their faith and how they will only have faith on certain days. In Life of Pi, Pi has a hard time as well keeping his faith, but he stills practices his religion and in the end is somewhat part of what gets him through the journey.

Avelar 7 said...

Though Beatrice and Virgil and Life of Pi have similarities, I do not consider the books comparable. One one hand they are similar for a few reasons. The most obvious being Yann's use of animals in both the stories. Life of Pi focuses on a Bengal Tiger, while Beatrice and Virgil follows a donkey and a monkey. Additionally, in both novels, the animals are given human characteristics, most likely to parallel other individuals in the novel. However, the novels differ in many ways too. Most notably, the writing style. Life of Pi is very descriptive, vivid, and easy to follow. It is told from multiple viewpoints of the same story. Beatrice and Virgil is written in a very unique way. It is a story within a story. I do believe that this also makes much of the story lose its meaning and value though. Another reason that they are not comparable is just overall quality. Life of Pi is very well put together. It has an interesting protagonist, an exciting plot, and intriguing symbolism. Beatrice and Virgil—in my opinion—lacks what Life of Pi had.

Anonymous said...

Darrington 2
In my opinion, the two novels have a few niche similarities, but the story of Beatrice and Virgil does not compare to Life of Pi. Of course, both being written by Yann Martel, the writing style can be connected with his immense use of description. One can tell that the writing style is similar but also in the way he approaches animals in the stories. In Life of Pi, Richard Parker represents the savage side of Pi Patel. Within Beatrice and Virgil, the monkey is Virgil and can be interpreted as a Holocaust victim. The animals being used to represent people is a similarity that can be compared between the two novels. Both stories also use the idea of someone writing a story within a story. Despite these reasons, I do not think the novel can be compared. The topic of a true event that is being allegorized to a much more fictional story about finding oneself and one’s beliefs stretches the idea of comparing them greatly. Life of Pi was a more engaging and more satisfying read, where Beatrice and Virgil has a less gratifying plot when combined with the amount of exposition.

Anonymous said...

Erck 5
The two books written by Yann Martel, The Life of Pi, and Beatrice and Virgil, hold very many similarities. Both contain lots of first-person injections and narratives throughout the author injecting in The Life of Pi, and with Henry constantly tossing his own thoughts around during Beatrice and Virgil. They both also contain numerous amounts of descriptive language, sometimes almost being too "wordy" or verbose with the amount of description and language used. Symbolism flows and thrives throughout the pages of each novel, each page holding much more meaning than one could possibly acknowledge by reading the book only once. The forums allow us to examine each and every page while picking apart every sentence and allusion. Like the Life of Pi, I am also seeing the chance of a foreshadowing of explanation coming at the very end of Beatrice and Virgil, explaining the allusions and rest of the book, also explaining who each character is and the meaning behind them; however, I did find Life of Pi to have more meaning and interest personally, while Beatrice and Virgil is more of lengthy read, with less twisting plot structure and surprise.

Lundberg 5 said...

The Life of Pi and Beatrice and Virgil have a few similarities, but their differences are much more apparent. In the novel, Life of Pi, there is a very entertaining storyline that draws the reader in. While reading it myself, I found it difficult to put down at times because it was so action-packed. With Beatrice and Virgil, I found it very difficult to focus on the novel. The plot is very drawn out, and I felt like the author was writing around the subject. Personally, having a more direct theme seems more impactful. I did not realize many of the allusions and themes until discussing with others. It seemed monotonous, compared to the action of Life of Pi. One aspect that I quickly noticed was the contrasting writing styles. Martel uses chapter variation to provide a more clear and deliberate plot in Life of Pi; however, the absence of chapters in Beatrice and Virgil is noticeable. I found that Martel’s use of chapters was much more impactful because without them, it was difficult to remain focused and much of the story ran together, like a play. Both novels also depict their themes through the use of animals. The Life of Pi leaves the literal story of animals unclear, while Beatrice and Virgil obviously is an allegory to actual historical events. Although these two novels greatly differ, the complementary styles allow a reader to see Martel’s work in both.

Anonymous said...

Vogel 1

Compared to Life of Pi, Beatrice and Virgil takes a different approach. The approach to Beatrice and Virgil is about an author instead of a guy and this novel is less of a huge detailed story, but instead many different little stories of in Beatrice and Virgil. Also the the novel is more of a read that jumps back and forth from Henry’s life and what is going on around him. Meanwhile the Life of Pi is more of the author talking about how Pi is all good now in the present and this was represented with the italicized text then it switched to non-italicized text when Pi was talking and telling his story; this was unique, because it was something new and fresh to realize what was going on, but for the novel Beatrice and Virgil it is different, because it does not have the same switch of text, but they have different formats of how to write it in order to ensure that you know what is going on and informing you that this is a different section or story of the novel. This is what I have noticed is different compared to Life of Pi and Beatrice and Virgil.

Anonymous said...

Talcott 2
When comparing Life of Pi to Beatrice and Virgil there are more differences than similarities. The main similarity between Life of Pi and Beatrice and Virgil is the fact that they both have animals as major components of the book. A smaller similarity is both books include two characters with the same name. In Life of Pi, there are two Mr. Kumars and in Beatrice and Virgil, there are two Henrys. The two books storylines are greatly different. Life of Pi is a story about a boy stranded on the ocean trying to survive with a tiger on board. Beatrice and Virgil is a story about how an author fails, moves to a city where he finds a taxidermist and helps him write a play about a donkey and a monkey. Another difference is Yann Martel incorporates religion as a big part of his story in Life of Pi. Religion has not shown up at all in Beatrice and Virgil so far.

Anonymous said...

Betanzo 1
While taking the time to compare and contrast the differences between Beatrice and Virgil and Life of Pi, I would have to argue that the books have quite a few similarities with each other. Animals with human characteristics are involved in both stories. In the Life of Pi, the four animals that were on the lifeboat with Pi at the beginning of part two were a hyena, zebra, orangutan, and tiger. In Beatrice and Virgil, the main characters of the taxidermist's play are a monkey named Virgil and a donkey named Virgil. Another similarity would have to be the plot situation that the characters are in. In the Life of Pi, Pi Patel gets separated from his family and becomes stranded in the middle of the ocean. In Beatrice and Virgil, it also feels as if the taxidermist created Beatrice and Virgil into a situation where they are stranded alone. They seem to be lost on whatever journey they are venturing in and only have each other. Also, both of the "authors" in each story seem to resemble Yann Martel and personal, life story in becoming the author he is today. I don't have an opinion yet to see which novel I personally enjoy the best at the moment. Although, I definitely believe that the pace of Beatrice and Virgil isn't as fast as the Life of Pi storyline is. In the Life of Pi, I was instantly hooked into Pi's story and was intrigued by how much detail and imagery Pi put into telling his life story. In Beatrice and Virgil, although very descriptive as well, the plot seems kind of ordinary to me. There really isn't anything special about it, and I guess I'm not as "hooked" into it as much as I was for the Life of Pi.

Anonymous said...

Campbell 7

Throughout the story, there are many instances when the animals are given characteristics that make them seem like they are human. Such as the donkey and monkey, that represent humans that were in the Holocaust. It's a short way of saying it but also intense. In both novels, animals play an integral part in the plot whether dead or alive, fictional or physical. Such as Richard Parker, is the reason; or his fierce side. The instinct side kicked in and allowed Pi to survive through his entire journey on the Pacific Ocean. Relating to that is how Beatrice and Virgil give me a boy who cried wolf. It was a vibe and after so much hinting at who the taxidermist is, I lost interest in what is about to happen next, thinking that they will never tell us at all. It seems as he was trying to write too many things down at once but yet couldn't think of anything at all. They both take a great amount of analyzation while also pulling at the heartstrings of readers. I would say that both of these stories are more alike than not.

Anonymous said...

Between Life of Pi and Beatrice and Virgil, there are really only two significant similarities. In each novel, animals are a great interest both physically and metaphorically. Life of Pi uses animals as symbols of family members and other people, much like how Beatrice and Virgil are both personified animals being used as characters. Both also use the animals that are in their everyday lives as inspiration: Pi by growing up with a zoo, and Henry from being a taxidermist. The other similarity is that each novel contains a character who is an author that also resembles Yann Martel in various ways. This author character provides a first-person viewpoint for the reader and offers a second character perspective that provides “depth” to the novel’s storyline and development. With these major similarities, each novel is still so uniquely different. Life of Pi has a more sly way of incorporating metaphors, foreshadows, and various other literary devices that keep the reader guessing. Whereas in Beatrice and Virgil, it has a more apparent front that shows there is something more to each character, story, and detail that creates a slower pace for the storyline.

Anonymous said...

Beatrice and Virgil I think is alsmost Yann Martels way of continueing Life of Pi. There are countless references to the book and even symbols that in it. In the beginning, Henry says that the people accept the version of Julians story killing the animals and they wouldn't accept it if it were people. I think this directly correlates to when Pi is telling his story about the animals and the people and how the Japanese people accepted the version of the animals more than the one with people. And Yann Martel's message in Life of Pi was "The Better Story" and I definitely think that that theme carries over here. I also that it was interesting how he included the section about the three tigers in beatrice and virgil. He could have chose to describe any other zoo animal and he chose a tiger like Richard Parker. It also reminded me that everyone has ID's no matter what you do.

Wright 7 said...

The most obvious way that Life of Pi relates to Beatrice and Virgil is the plot that is centered around animals as the main characters. Both stories use animals in an allegorical way to portray another story or event in history. The animals in Life of Pi are used to tell his journey of him lost at sea, instead of telling us the gruesome details of the people involved. In Beatrice and Virgil, Yann Martel had a similar idea with using animals to tell the story of the Holocaust. In other words, the animals are used to lighten the moods of each novel. I would also note that the two stories also have a lot of differences. Life of Pi has a much more interesting storyline in my opinion. Thus being why he sold more copies of this book. The novel Beatrice and Virgil does not have the pages that keep you reading for hours and hours, but more have you thinking big picture. Whereas Life of PI is the opposite. Chapters that involve the shipwreck, the imaginary island, gruesome animal scenes, and the rescue all have you on the edge of your seat while you are reading. Both, however, are great novels.

Anonymous said...

Ziegeldorf 7
I have found that Beatrice and Virgil has similar themes to Life of Pi. The most prominent is the animals. In both novels, humans are compared to animals in a variety of ways. Henry, the narrator, relates humans to animals several times. The taxidermist Henry also sends stories to Henry about the killings of animals. Animals was a common theme in Life of Pi, as Pi grew up in a zoo and saw similarities between the two mammals. Secondly, Martel likes to write about religion. Pi is a boy with three different religions and admires them all. He talks about the doubt that follows religion, specifically in the eyes of the agnostics. In Beatrice and Virgil, Virgil speaks about how faith is always followed by a shadow, or doubt. In regards to his writing style, I have noticed that Martel writes with lots of detail, shown obviously when Virgil delves into great detail over a pear. The other style of writing I have noticed is that Martel likes to write in long lists.

2 Tellinghuisen said...

In my opinion the two novels “Beatrice and Virgil” and “life of pi” compare to each other quite a bit. Obviously both novels are written by the author Yann Martel so they both are gonna have similar writing styles. To start with both novels use animals in very unique ways. Martel is very clever in why he uses animals in the stories. If you just tell a story with basic humans the story seems much more boring and more mainstream. When you throw animals in their place now all of the sudden the story is more interesting and really grabs the reader's interest to find out what is really going on. In both stories however there is another story behind the animals that the reader needs to decipher for themselves. In life of Pi the animals are just put in place to cover up the real story with the humans. In Beatrice and Virgil I think the animals are supposed to represent something that was lost from or during the Halocaust.

7 Tschetter said...

I find it very hard to compare Beatrice and Virgil and the story Life of Pi to each other. I think this is because I found Life of Pi to be very engaging from page one of the book unlike Beatrice and Virgil it was very hard to read to me up until page 40. It became very interesting after that but definitely not one of my favorite books. I found that both Beatrice and Virgil and Life of Pi both have a way of connecting animals to humans into the story. In Life of Pi, Pi was compared to as a tiger. This was his savage side that came out when he was trapped on the lifeboat. In Beatrice and Virgil the taxidermist, Henry, used a donkey and a monkey in the play he is writing perhaps about two different people in the holocaust. I found it interesting how these two stories compared by animals relating to people.

5 DeCurtins said...

Due to not yet finishing Beatrice and Virgil, I do not believe that I can entirely answer this question. However, as of now, I do not think it compares to The Life of Pi. This novel has been almost boring and uneventful so far. It doesn’t have me on the edge of my seat wanting more the way the Life of Pi did. Every chapter in the Life of Pi brought the readers imagination and fears to life. No one would want the events that happened to Pi happen to them in real life, making Pi a fascinating character for endeuring everything he has. The life of Pi also gave readers a gut-punching epiphone at the end of the novel. I’m not sure how Beatrice and Virgil ends, but I hope that Yann Martel brings the book together in an amazing way the way he did with the Life of Pi in how the whole entire book may have been fake, yet real. As of now, I am not very impressed with Beatrice and Virgil, but that is not to say that the end of the book won’t change my mind and cause me to be intrigued.

Anonymous said...

Rau 1
In similarity, the novel Beatrice and Virgil can be compared to the relative novel, Life of Pi. Both novels seem to personify their stories in a way that has hidden their true meaning, allowing animals to be the characters who lead the stories. In a way, these stories could be implying that the readers would prefer to visualize harsh events in the eyes of an animal rather than sharing empathy with a human who would carry much stronger emotions and reactions to the events. Perhaps the author is feeling more disturbed about these events than the reader, or the author wants the reader to remember traumatic events in a friendlier piece of mind. For Life of Pi, Yann Martel seems to use animals in order to turn the tragic shipwreck into a more pleasant story about a man surviving on with the company of an adult Bengal tiger. While in Beatrice and Virgil, the two main characters of a donkey and a howler monkey are seemingly allegorical characters to the Jewish victims during the Holocaust. All in all, the major similarity I notice with these two novels is the stylizing of the plots through the personification of animals in place as the stories’ characters.

Keller 7 said...

I think that Beatrice and Virgil relate to Life of Pi in a way. They both have stories inside of a book. In Life of Pi, there are italicized lines and those are the author's thoughts placed inside the book. In Beatrice and Virgil, the book has a play written into it. Both of these techniques of writing add style and character to each of the two novels. They both are based around characters being an animal. In Life of Pi, it started in a zoo. As the book went on it was down to only three animals on the boat, and then there was one. Richard Parker, the tiger, played a huge role in the making of the book Life of Pi. In Beatrice and Virgil, the two main characters in the play are a donkey and a howler monkey. Animals being the main characters add a lot of different insight on how to look at the novels.

Baier 2 said...

Beatrice and Virgil compared to Life of Pi in the way that a tangerine is compared to an orange, both are very similar but they are different sizes and have different tastes. A tangerine and an orange are citrus fruits like how the two books both use animals as characters to represent people. Beatrice and Virgil isn't as popular as Life of Pi like how a tangerine is smaller than an orange. Life of Pi is easier to pick up and read but is hard to understand the underlying themes while Beatrice and Virgil is harder to get into but is easier to see the connections to the Holocaust; this is similar to how oranges are sweeter but tangerines are less sour and tart. A tangerine and an orange come from two different trees like how Life of Pi and Beatrice and Virgil come from the same author but took different times to make and different research to make them.

Anonymous said...

Kellogg 2
Beatrice and Virgil compares to Life of Pi in many ways. First of all, both stories have animals integrated into them as a big part of the story. Maybe even the main points of the two stories. In both stories, the animals play huge roles in the lives of the main characters, whether it be allowing them to be living or how they make a living. Secondly, the animals in both stories tend to die at some point during the novel. In Life of Pi, the animals on the lifeboat are killed by each other while in Beatrice and Virgil they are previously killed and given to a taxidermist to “bring back to life” through his work. These books are also similar because they each have references to tragedies. Life of Pi has a shipwreck while Beatrice and Virgil hints to the Holocaust in many different aspects of the novel. The striped shirt, for example, or the way the book discusses the “horrors”.

Anonymous said...

Sonju 2

After reading half of Beatrice and Virgil, I have found that many parts of the book are similar to Life of Pi. While the messages and purposes of the two books are different, the way Yann Martel writes and how he conveys the messages have a lot in common. The most obvious similarity in Martel's storytelling is the use of animals. In Life of Pi, the animals are used to disguise the gruesome reality of Pi's time at sea. He says that the animals make for a better story and that is the one that people want to hear. In Beatrice and Virgil, animals are also used to disguise something, but in this novel, they are used to hide the fact that it is an allegory to the Holocaust. Martel wrote it this way because he thinks the Holocaust is a worn out topic and that everyone has written all there is to say about the Holocaust. By using animals, the idea is to make it a story that people want to read and enjoy reading.

Oren 5 said...

I think that Beatrice and Virgil can be related through their use of animals to talk about darker subjects. It is more entertaining and less depressing to think about dark subjects such as the Holocaust as animals rather than thinking about them as people. Such as in the case of Life of Pi, it would be atrocious to think of Pi's adventure as him being a savage and a cannibal, but it was much more entertaining and noble of him to live with a Bengal Tigar. As such, it is much easier to think about the condition of animals going through hardship rather than as people. It is also simpler to think of events in terms of animals, like with Animal Farm, and the Russian Revolution, we think of ourselves as having complex emotions and thought processes, but in terms of animals, whatever event it was becomes much easier to understand.

Anonymous said...

Poncelet 2

In my opinion, I believe this novel is no comparison to Life of Pi at all. The action and thrill seeking things are lacking and almost forgotten about in Beatrice and Virgil. Yes there is still a strong message being sent in both novels but nothing like Life of Pi, Yann Martel’s best selling book. There are reasons why Life of Pi is his best selling novel, it is full of descriptive, mind catching words that do not let the reader put the book down. In Beatrice and Virgil, I want to put the book on a shelf and forget about it. Nothing in that novel makes me want to read it. Nothing is overly exciting to me to just binge read it in one sitting. There are lots of more religious viewpoints in Life of Pi that I like reading into and learning more about. So yeah, that is my reason why I believe Beatrice and Virgil does not compare to Life of Pi.

7Scarbrough said...

I don’t believe that this book compares to Life of Pi because there is a completely different plot and writing style. Every time an author writes a new book you can’t constantly compare it to their past works. Each book is going to be different in it’s styles and plot formats. Unless it is a part of a series an author has the freedom to write whatever kinds of books they feel. Although I am not a fan of Beatrice and Virgil I really enjoyed reading Life of Pi. There are numerous authors that have written books that people have loved, and people have hated. Everyone enjoys different writing styles so in order for an author to be truly successful I believe that they should write books that interest different readers throughout their writing career. Life of Pi and Beatrice and Virgil both started out a little slow, however because I enjoyed the ending of Life of Pi so much I’m hoping that I will enjoy the ending of this current book just as much as the previous book.

Anonymous said...

Olthoff 5
I believe that Beatrice and Virgil compare very well to Life of Pi. One thing that stuck out to me the most was the use of animals in the novel that help to tell the story. Starting with Life of Pi the entire story is about Pi being raised with animals and even mirroring himself to be an animal. In Beatrice and Virgil, the animals also play a key role. Life of Pi and Beatrice and Virgil also compare in that they use a writer writing about a story in the book. This really makes the books interesting because it gives two different points of view on what is going on in the story. However, I don't believe that Beatrice and Virgil can be compared to Life of Pi because one is about a very serious matter in the Holocaust while the other is dealing with possibly a mystical story with a tiger.

Anonymous said...

Cushing 5

In my opinion, the novel relates and Yan Martel's writing styles can be paralleled in Life of Pi and Beatrice and Virgil. In both books there are strong ties to animals, In Beatrice and Virgil, there is the taxidermist that stuffs animals in order to "preserve" their life. In Life of Pi, the entire book is centered around animals until the last fifty pages or so. In my opinion, this is a writing quality of Yan Martel that is quite interesting. In the book, Henry the taxidermist says that he tells this story about a monkey and a donkey because no one can judge a monkey and a donkey like we can judge other humans. The are presumptions to be made. I believe that this is Yan Martel speaking through his character at this point because this is the exact same thing that he did in the life of pi. The story a great survival story, until the humans, were put in, and then it became a tragedy.

SVH said...

Van Hulzen 5

Yann Martel's novels Life of Pi and Beatrice and Virgil have very similar styles and parallels. In both books animals are used to represent the real life real people and phenomena in the world. Yann Martel in Life of Pi uses a zebra, hyena, and an orangutan to take the place of real characters that hide the reality of Pi's situation. He also uses a tiger to represent the savage and primitive side of human behavior. In Beatrice and Virgil, a donkey and monkey are used to represent the Jewish victims of the Holocaust. Martel uses extreme detail and imaginative power in both novels to make the story line seem, without a doubt, reality. He proves the point that a story does not have to be reality to be the truth. Another aspect of both novels is the way Martel incorporates himself into his books. In life of Pi, Martel interrupts the story line with the description of how he met Pi and acquired his story. In Beatrice and Virgil, Martel uses an author by the name of Henry to portray himself, while also having a taxidermist named Henry.

Anonymous said...

Spencer 5
I do not think the novel compares with LIfe of Pi. The reason I believe this is the story is not as fluid as in Life of Pi. Both have many ideas, but I think I like Life of Pi better. I like it more because the story is easier to follow and the point of the story is straightforward. Unlike Henry’s flip book the Life of Pi’s story is there and is clearly stated throughout the book. There is no question to what the book is about. Beatrice and Virgil are very foggy, it is hard to find what the story is truly about and I am afraid that it will not know the story or see the point of it. When the story is not clear it gets hard to keep reading the book itself. It just doesn’t hold up to the Life of Pi. I think that we should read Beatrice and Virgil first then the Life of Pi, this way it is easy to see how Yann Martel writes, but then also be left with the more interesting book last.

Nuss 1 said...

I believe this novel does compare to Life of Pi. Yann Martel personifies animals to describe tragic events in both novels. In Beatrice and Virgil, there is a monkey and a donkey who are representative of the Jewish victims from the Holocaust while in Life of Pi there is a tiger named Richard Parker who maybe Pi's desperate survival instinct within him. Martel uses this personification to help himself imagine the character because he himself is not writing from experience only creativity. He is able to make his novel sound realistic even though a monkey and a donkey, of course, could never speak. The characterizations are more thorough by using animals because they are easier for the readers to imagine as well. Animals have characteristic we have known of, although it is uncommon for people to be a zoologist or something of similar expertise, people ever since adolescence have been learning what sounds animals make, what animals eat/kill, and so on. Children who have never even seen a donkey can describe them pretty clearly. This is where Martel is able to convince the reader into believing that a completely unreal story conveys truth. The readers steer the train and create the scenery while martel simply lays down the tracks.

Anonymous said...

Kocer 5
Beatrice and Virgil compares to the Life of Pi in a couple ways. The first example is his use of animals. In both books, Yann Martel uses animals as a part of the story. He describes them in depth and sometimes even gives them human qualities. Also, the animals in his stories are used to symbols things much greater. When reading both the books you will notice a similarity in the writing style and how Martel chooses to go into depth about certain things and then leave out other details that you may want to know about. An example of this in Beatrice and Virgil is how he never mentions the city that Henry and his wife decided to move to or how he never mentions how much the tigers in the taxidermy shop would cost. In both books, you are expected to dig deeper into what you are reading to find and understand all the symbolism.

Bowar 7 said...

Life of Pi and Beatrice and Virgil have similarities to one another. Both being Yann Martel’s work, these novels use animals has significant characters in the plot. Also, both novels give the animals human characteristics and therefore greater meaning. Beatrice and Virgil contains a monkey and a donkey. As we get farther into the novel, we hear more of the play and can make the connection that the animals are more than just animals; they are representing some matter of the Holocaust. In comparison to Beatrice and Virgil, Life of Pi also uses animals in a way that could represent more than animals. The orangutan, hyena, zebra, and tiger are significant characters with important roles within Pi’s story. Their characteristics make the reader question which one of Pi’s stories is true. Martel uses animals to make the story easier to read. His unique style of writing brings a creative twist to the expected reality in most novels.

Kolbeck 7 said...

Kolbeck 7
This novel does not compare to "Life of Pi" and I truly think Martell missed the mark when he made this novel. Pi is an instantly likable character, he is curious, mature, and observant as a young child. Readers can easily sympathize with him and care about his survival, but the same cannot be said for Henry. I do not see many reasons to like an author who lives in the past of his success and, in my opinion, does not show character traits that are likable or favorable. He is perfectly normal and his only characteristic is that he has a certain type of tenacity which involves moving to a different city when publishers point out flaws in his novel in progress. Other than characters, the settings, imagery, and overall story of "Life of Pi" is nearly 20x better than "Beatrice and Virgil". Martell focuses on many philosophical aspects in both novels but accomplishes his goal in a much more pleasant way in "Life of Pi".

Outland 2 said...

Yann Martel's "Life of Pi" and "Beatrice and Virgil" have clearly similar construction but have distinct differences as well. Both revolve especially around animals, and both deal with tragedy in their own ways. Another similarity we see is the presence of death and its significant impact on the book. Contrasting each other, one of the key themes in "Life of Pi" is religion, while that subject is nearly ignored in "Beatrice and Virgil."

I am not completely finished reading "Beatrice and Virgil," but I am already enjoying it less than I did "Life of Pi." I was able to make a connection with Pi Patel much faster than with Henry the author. Moreover, that connection with the character lasted. I am beginning to lose touch with Henry, while with Pi I felt attached to him throughout the entire novel. So, does "Beatrice and Virgil" compare with "Life of Pi?" To me, it does not.

Kuehn 2 said...

I think the book Beatrice & Virgil is very similar to Life of Pi. In both books it relates a world experience to animals. In Beatrice & Virgil, it is talking about a play that relates the Holocaust to a donkey and a monkey. In Life of Pi, Pi’s experience on the lifeboat was described to the readers through various animals. Also, since both books were written by the same author there are some writing similarities. For example, all of the animals have very humanistic characteristics in both books. They are also similar in the way that they are not like any other book. Life of Pi is written from two different perspectives, so it unlike other books. Beatrice & Virgil is written as a play inside a story. I have never read another book that is written like that. Overall, both books are similar because they were written by the same author and because they are unique.

Anonymous said...

I believe the two novels are similar in many ways. First off, they both have a central theme that involves animals. In Life of Pi, animals represented people on the lifeboat with Pi throughout the novel. In Beatrice and Virgil, the two animals represent people that were affected by the Holocaust. Secondly, both novels involve an author. In Life of Pi, the author periodically appeared to be interviewing Pi decades after his experience. In Beatrice and Virgil, however, the author is presently talking with the taxidermist while they are both looking at the play. Both novels have an author that is somewhat similar to Yann Martel himself. I find that very interesting because not many authors put themselves in their book.

Keegan 1 said...

I think that this book compares to Life or Pi in little ways. One way is that both Beatrice and Virgil and Life of Pi talk about animals. However, in Life of Pi, zoos were looked at as a good thing so that animals were able to get food and water every day, and they didn't have to fight for it. But in Beatrice and Virgil, the taxidermist said that zoos were a bad thing and he really looked down on them. Another way the two stories are similar is that they both give animals human-like qualities. In Life of Pi, Richard Parker is Pi's savage side. In Beatrice and Virgil, the two animals are talking throughout the play. A difference in both of the novels is that Life of Pi has more action and is a better novel in my opinion. In Beatrice and Virgil, it is a slower moving book.

Anonymous said...

Laabs 5
I think there are many things that you could compare with the two works, one of the things being that the main characters are portrayed as animals. Yann Martel was trying to get a message across without getting human feelings mixed into it. What I mean by that is that when you see an animal you feel a kind of empathy for it and don't look into it too deep. If someone is looking at a human go about doing the same activities that Beatrice and Virgil do in the story there may be some feelings about humans behind it and those feelings may hinder the message that he is trying to get across. The stories are also similar because they are about a journey of some sort. Both of the journeys in the novels are symbolic in some way. One is about discovering and taming the beast within and the other is a symbolic story about the Holocaust.