March 23 Chopin
Where is Kate Chopin smartest in this story? I find it to be among the smartest stories. She sure knows people.
Can we locate any possible symbols in this story?
Do you snicker in the end? Should you? I do. A lot. Every time I read it.
83 comments:
Kate Chopin is smartest in the story when she wrote the last paragraph of her story. She describes how the lawyer is dreaming of this Madame Celestin while she is dreaming of her marriage. Chopin knows human nature when she wrote, "You see, Judge, Celestin came home las' night. An' he's promise me on his word an' honor he's going to turn ova a new leaf." Celestin has not turned over a new leaf. He will continue to hurt Madame Celestin, and the lawyer will continue to be sad. The reader wants the lawyer and the madame to be together, but Celestin is an obstacle which cannot be surmounted. Staying with Celestin is the right thing to do while being the wrong thing to do.
Chmela 2
I believe that Chopin is the smartest when she tells about Mrs. Celestin's fear because it gives us the sense that the divorce will happen and that the lawyer is in it for the better rather than so he can marry her. Chopin really lead us on throughout the story into the ending. I laughed a little bit but in the same sense it is saddening and evil. No lawyer should persuade for their own benefit. Chopin uses a great sense of worry and doubt to get the readers attention. She is a very smart author and dumbing down Mrs. Celestin makes the ending even crazier.
Kate Chopin is smartest in this story when she makes the Judge assume that Madame Celestin automatically is falling for him and she will want to be with him. This is simply human nature. She also shows a sexuality side as she has Madame Celestin holding a broom in the final section, showing that her husband his "turning a new leaf" still has power over her. I think it is appropriate to laugh after reading this short story.
I believe that Kate Chopin is smartest while the two are talking to each other. She makes it really seem like they are interested in each other the entire story and we sort of root for the lawyer to get her. Then, right at the end she fools us all and stays with her man. This is a very smart way to right the story. In the story I located one thing that might be a symbol. While I was reading I was not sure if he like her or not until she talks about how he takes off his workday coat and wears his Sunday coat, which is probably nicer. It is nicer, because you want to look better for someone you are interesting and this is the point in the story where is falls for her and starts to want her. And yes I snicker at the end. It is very funny what she does to him.
Madame Celestin plays this man for days just to see how far she could push him. She led this man to believe that she would go through hurdles to divorce her husband, and he hoped to have her next. Kate Chopin was smart through her choice of the woman's struggles of her friends, her church, and the bishop himself pertaining to her divorce. The woman knew exactly what her husband was up to, and she knew exactly how to play with the man who kept flirting with her. This is fantastic.
Chopin is smart when she has Lawyer Paxton appeal to Madame Celestin about having to work. The only reason Madame Celestin wants a divorce is because Mr. Celestin is gone; she wants someone to fill in, and please her. Now that her husband is home, he pleases her. There is a possible sexual representation with the broom handle and Madame Celestin's glove in the closing paragraph. Her flushed face also alludes to the same topic. I definitely snickered at the end.
I feel that Chopin is smartest at the very end of the story. Madame Celestin leads on the lawyer so to make him believe she is getting a divorce and interested in perusing him. At the end, the lawyer assumes that she would be delighted to be with him post-divorce, little does he know that is not her intention at all. For once, a man is played by a woman.
Eitreim
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Kate Chopin shows that she understands people well in the story "Madame Celestin's Divorce". The lawyer, Mr. Paxton, grows increasingly close to Madame Celestin as the story goes on, eventually becoming intent on marrying her. Of course, his dreams are shattered when Mr. Celestin returns and the divorce plans are thrown out. Chopin knows how people think and feel when they start to get close to someone.
Kate Chopin is smartest when Madam Celestine is talking. She is traveling to a mind of a person who may not have much of an education but Madame Celestine is a hard working woman. I could personally not find any symbols. I think Chopin does a good job of keeping the reader interested with a daily routine between the lawyer and Madame yet the ending is different. I snicker because the lawyer is persuading Madame to divorce but in the ending, Celestine comes back and the lawyer is alone still. It is a little dark to laugh about that.
Williams 2
I think Kate Chopin is smartest in her story by how she makes Madame Celestin sound rather unintelligent in how she speaks. Chopin does this by rarely using full words and making the reader read in a sort of "hill-billy" way of speaking. This is smart because one can believe that Madame Celestin was fully aware that she was leading on the lawyer the whole time and was actually quite smart.
I believe the broom, used for flirting by Madame Celestin throughout the story, is a symbol for sexual desire.
I did snicker at the end and I believe that is okay because usually men lead on women and this story was different.
Personally, I think that Kate Chompin is smartest in this story in the last paragraph. I believe that there is some underlying meaning in the words that Madame is saying to the Judge. She had been talking about getting a divorce to him for a while and she leads him on. Judge wants to possibly be for her and he falls flat. I think that this symbolizes girls today because we have the tendency to do this often.
I think Chopin is smartest with the characterization of Madame Celestin. She is a boisterous, flirtatious, and self-sufficient character. She flirts with the lawyer who is trying to aid her in her divorce. But as soon as he shows interest in her, she all of sudden is interested again in her husband. She leads him on and then cannot reciprocate the feelings. I found this rather amusing. I'm sure there are symbols but I couldn't pick any out right away.
I believe that Kate Chopin is smartest at the end of the story when Madame Celestin tells the Judge that he doesn't need to worry about the divorce anymore. Madame Celestin will not let the Judge tell her what to do in regards to her own life. Throughout the whole story, he has encouraged her to get divorced, but in the end, she decides to stay with her husband. She realized that the Judge wanted to marry her, but she wouldn't let him get his way.
There are many possible symbols in the story such as the rose garden and the word Judge which is capitalized throughout the whole story.
I found the story to be funny because she leads him on the whole time, and then goes back on him in the end.
I believe that although she is smart throughout the story, Chopin is smartest right at the end. Chopin knows how people change their minds and forget the past, and what causes this change. At the end of the story, Madame Celestin decides not to get a divorce and to stay with her husband. The whole story, she was insisting that no one could say anything to change her mind, not even the pope. When Madame Celestin's husband comes home, he promises to turn over a new leaf. Even though she has already established that his promises always fall flat, she believes him this time and agrees to stay. Chopin knows that people forget what they have said in order to believe what they want to believe is true.
I believe Kate Chopin is the smartest in the last paragraph where it is almost certain that the divorce is happening and Celestin is falling for the man. She knows the lawyer is encouraging this divorce so he can get with her in the end. He doesn't care about her own good, instead he just loves her. She believes her husband wven though she knows his promises fall through. The symbols were a little difficult to pick out but the broom had to mean something. She always had it while talking to the judge.
As I read the last line, I couldn't help but do my silent laugh through my nose like I saw something amusing on the internet. Chopin was talking about how the lawyer and Madame Celestin were connected in some way and at the end of the story it disappeared. Not only does her husband come back but he says that he is going to change. You can easily tell that he had something to do with her saying that. She did not seem very happy when she was saying it but non the less, she still said it.
Kate Chopin is smartest in this story when she makes Madame Celestin sound unintelligent. It is hard work to come up with all the different ways to made her seem that way. I think the roses symbolize Madame Celestin's marriage. She goes through removing all the thorns or the hardships just to see the beauty of the rose. I did snicker at the end because you can tell the lawyer thinks unbiasedly at the beginning when telling Madame Celestin that a divorce is the best thing for her, and just when he starts to develop feelings for her she stays with her horrible husband.
I think she is smartest when she starts going on about how not even the pope could change Madame Celestine's mind. She has her character give Praxton so much hope that he begins to dress differently. I think the rosebushes are a symbol for Praxton's hope for love from Celestine. He admires them at the beginning of the story (which also says he stops to admire them often), and at the end when he goes to see Madame Celestine the last time, when his hope is highest. I personally do not snicker or giggle at the end, because, though I know women do this often, I have been led on numerous times, and it is not a fun experience to get your hopes up so high that someone might care for you, just to have them crash right in front of your face.
I think Chopin is smart about how she describes the Judge. If written incorrectly it could be easily guessed that the only reason he wants Celestin to get a divorce is so he can marry her. Because of the way Chopin writes his character however it can be shown that he really cares for Celestin. She is also smart when writing that last paragraph. I know plenty of girls who think that they can 'change' or 'fix' someone, when in reality that hardly ever happens. Chopin knows that often times we try to see the good in people and forget the bad.
I could see the white picket fence or the rosebush being a symbol easily.
I did find the final paragraph humorous.
I think Chopin is the smartest in the first paragraph on the last page where the judge is daydreaming of having Celestin as his wife and how he has been waiting so long for this moment. The Judge believes she is getting a divorce and is going to see her at this point to tell her how he feels. Chopin really sets up the big finally at the end and that is when you find it slightly comical because she sets the ending up with the judge's thoughts and hopes. As for symbols, I think that the broom as well as the rose garden are definitely symbols of some sort. The end did make me laugh a little bit. Although it really should not be humorous if you think about it. We all laughed at a man's heartbreak and the shattering of his dreams...
Is her husband really that terrible to her? I doubt it.
Breitzman 3
Chopin is the most brilliant in the last paragraph of the story. The fairly humorous and somewhat plot-twisting ending to the story helps show her versatility as a writer. Chopin also shows her brilliance with the way this story relates to human nature. As humans, we can be easily lead on to believe stuff that we hope to be true. In this story, this is the case for the Judge who believes Madame Celestin is into her, only to find out he has been mislead.
Kate Chopin is smartest in the story when she wrote the last paragraph. The Judge is dreaming about Madame Celestine and their possible life together. It is all crushed when "Celestine has turned over a new leaf"--which is probably a lie.
A possible symbol in the story is the pink ribbon around Madame's neck. This symbolizes her innocence in how she learns to forget. Pink is a nice, innocent color.
I didn't snicker at the end, but I get how some people would.
Kate Chopin is the smartest in this story at the end of it. Throughout the story we believe that Madame Celestin is falling for the lawyer because he is going to be the one to save her in this awful marriage. That makes the lawyer instantly her hero. At the same time he is becoming interested in her. Human nature kicks in when she is hesitant to throw away her marriage while the lawyer is changing his ways and falling deeper for her. At the end of the story Celestin comes back and we know the the girl will potentially always be stuck in this marriage because she will let Celestin back in every time he comes back to her and says hes changed. He will never change and deep down she probably knows that, but she believes she loves him so she will stay. The lawyer will continue to be sad about this because he believes he knows what is best for her, and tried to help. The end of the story is worth the laugh because this will continue to be a common cycle until the lawyer gives up all hope on her and then there will be no shot of her making it out of the marriage.
I think Chopin is smartest in the story when Madam Celestin and the lawyer are talking about the divorce. You can see that the lawyer is trying to persuade her to get a divorce, but mostly for his own agenda, not for her personal choice. It shows that she is easily persuadable and is afraid to stand alone. It shows that the lawyer is keeping his best interests in mind, and is dreaming of marrying Madame. The rosebuds can be a symbol throughout the story. I did find this story to be funny in a dark kind of way. I feel bad that she isn't strong enough to do what she really wants to do in life.
The most intelligent portion of this story was the way Chopin lead us readers on to believe that nothing could dissuade Madame Celestin from following through with this divorce. She had gone through all religious obstacles and she had appeared to meet a state of finality with her marriage but what held her back in the end was her fear. Her fear of being hurt, the community judging her character, and a false promise. In psychology we had studied cases where people do tend to stay in abusive relationships because of fear. I see that here and I enjoyed being lead to believe that maybe just maybe Madame Celestin could break this awful trend.
Ms. Chopin is smartest in the story by the way she has Mrs. Célestin lead on lawyer Paxton. Mrs. Célestin comes out and starts to be the one meeting Paxton instead of Paxton always meeting her. Then she consistently is talking of divorcing her husband that left her and how unhappy she is with her current life. This allows Lawyer Paxton to start believing that this is his opportunity to have a wife. He starts to dress better and to impress. Mrs. Célestin picks up on this and just as easily as she lead Paxton on she eased him off with the last words of hers to him that Mr. Célestin had come back and promised that he was overturning a new leaf.
I do snicker somewhat at the end, but do feel some sorrow for Lawyer Paxton as he was getting his hopes up and then is let down by Mrs. Célestin.
I believe that Chopin is smartest in the story when she is writing in the end. She builds the entire story up to show that the Celestins are getting a divorce. Then, at the end she destroys it all in one paragraph to show that they are going to stay together. Chopin does really know and understand human nature. This story is like a common love story in modern society. One of the members in the couple is out running around. When the couple is just about ready to break off the marriage, the person comes back and swears to change. Then the person is good for a while, but goes back to their old ways eventually. I think that the story as a whole is a symbol of humanity and human nature. We always hold out to the very end with hope that a situation changes for the better. The end is kind of funny but also kind of sad. It is sad that the couple can't have a strong, healthy relationship with each other. It is sad that they have to live their life the way they do.
I believe that Choplin is smartest when she made it almost seem that Madame was falling in love with the lawyer, when in all reality she really isn't. The lawyer goes through all of the hassle of stopping by and taking to Madame and the hassle of his own thoughts to find out that she did not really have and interest.
Thought it was really interesting how Chopin decided to capitalize "Judge" throughout the entire story! I thought that could symbolize how the Judge was judging her marriage.
I thought that the story was funny! My favorite part was when she said "The pope himself couldn't make her stand it any longer" and then ends up staying with her husband!
Although Chopin is very smart while writing the entire story, I find the ending to be the smartest. Throughout the entire story Chopin makes the reader believe that Madame Celestin is going to get a divorce and that she and the Judge will eventually get married. However, at the end Chopin surprises the reader by having Madame Celestin not get divorce and stay with Celestin. I did not snicker at the end of the story, in fact I found it quite sad. One can assume that Celestin is not going to treat Madame Celestin any better than he did before. This makes me sad, because it shows how men still have control over women.
Kate Chopin's smartest moment is the last page when the lawyer begins to think about marrying Madame Celestin after she divorces her husband. It is an almost predictable thing for the lawyer to do because it is so stereotypical. Also, Madame Celestin makes it clear that no person could change her mind from getting a divorce, not even the Pope. Then she decides not to get a divorce simply because her husband says he is going to change even though she has already proven him to be a terrible liar. Chopin masterfully shows that it is human nature to take the easier route in life and fear change. Celestin should have divorced her husband long ago but she continues to push the past away and resist change even if it is obviously for the better. Also, the church seems to support her staying the the marriage even if it is not beneficial to her simply because they believe divorce is a bad thing. They even tell her that "it is the duty of a Catholic to stan' everything till the las' extreme." They are basically telling her to suck it up and stay married to Celestin just because that is how marriage is supposed to work. She might even have just lead the lawyer on because she was toying with him.
I believe Kate Chopin to be the smartest in this story when she references Catholicism in the story. She alludes to the problems that come with divorce. Madame Celestin's family, bishop, and Pere all are opposed to the possible divorce, while she is not. She shows that the divorce is unlikely for many reasons. Shockingly, the factor that cancels the divorce is Madame's personal choice. I find Madame's rosy cheeks and broom a symbol for her sexuality. I question the closing paragraph in the story. She leads on a good man to go back to a husband she describes to be awful. Maybe she is alluding to men leading women on all the time?
Zeke Wieser
In only four pages Chopin is able to detail the blooming and wilting of an infatuation. That accomplishment alone is astoundingly smart. Therefore, I would put forth that the entire story is the smartest.
Human relationships are tricky, multifaceted, and downright confusing. The ability of Chopin to succinctly characterize these individuals and give their relationship depth is astounding.
I believe the broom could be a possible symbol. In my mind, it symbolizes the womanly duties and expectations that are thrust upon Madam Celestin. She is always forced to have it in here hand, and while she may "balance it delicately" (pg.1) it is still omnipresent.
I think Choplin was smartest when she talked about how Madame Celestine went to her family and friends for advice. Oftentimes in life when one is confused about a major decision, we rely on those closest to us to give us well thought out advice and help point us in the right direction. I think the picket fence symbolizes one of the many hurdles Praxton needs to get past in order to win Madame Celestine over. It also symbolizes Madame Celestine's ways of letting Praxton close enough to see what he could have but never actually letting him in. I did not snicker at the end of this short story because I've seen too many close friends and family members get played to find Madame Celestine's games funny.
Kate Chopin is smartest in the last paragraph when she describes how the judge is dreaming of Madame Celestin. When the judge comes up to visit her she is dreaming of her new relationship with Celestin because he said he was "going to turn ova a new leaf." Everyone should know that in a hurtful relationship the hurtful one does not change or stop hurting their significant other. Chopin shows how the strongest plan will fail because her little stories are not true. Madame Celestin just wants attention and gets it. Once the judge was led up to the highest extent she lets him fall on his face.
Mykayla Palmer Pd. 3
Throughout the story, Chopin proves to be very intelligent. She is specifically smartest towards the end, when she has Lawyer Paxton daydreaming of Madame Celestin as his wife. Not only does Lawyer Paxton want to marry Madame Celestin, but the reader wants them to marry. Chopin sets up the entire story based on the conversations they have as he passes her on her way to work. Each time, she finds an excuse as to why she has not yet divorced her husband. She leads the lawyer on the entire novel, but as soon as her husband returns home she lets him go without a second thought. There may be some symbolism in the broom and the pink bow. The pink bow could represent her flirtatious nature, and how she is always looking for excitement. I snicker in the end but I also pity the lawyer.
The ending is probably the smartest of ms. chopin, because she really shows how naiive the woman was to her husband's promises and how love is literally blinding. (one-sided, but blinding.)
The symbols I noticed were just the lawyer and his office and his dreams, he dresses nicer for the office and he dreams when he walks giving the allusion that he has someone to impress and someone to dream about. That's pretty awesome because falling in love with the thought of someone is much more powerful then falling for the actual human at first. The lawyer isn't really in love with madame, he just wants a wife and so he places her in his mind to fulfill the fantasy of a perfect mate, though he doesn't really know her well.
No, I didn't snicker, I saw it coming. It didn't suprise me enough to make me laugh.
Chopin is smartest thoughout the whole story. Classic man trying to get his dream girl per say to divorce a man that is terrible for her. The lawyer thinks he is the perfect match for the madame. But once again the woman always goes for the man who isn't the best.
Chopin in the smartest at the end of the story. The lawyer continues to push the divorce on Madame Celestin because he wants to pursue a relationship with her. Madame Celestin, who appears dumb in how she talks, is actually not dumb at all. She is basically leading on the judge to pursue interest in her by saying she will be getting a divorce. The judge is about ready to pursue a relationship with her and he is trying to look his best when Madame Celestin completely shuts him down and says that she wont be getting a divorce. Madame Celestin has the control.
I believe that Chopin is smart throughout the story, but I find her to be her smartest at the end. At the end where Madame Celestin decides to stay with her husband, who treats her terribly, because of the fact that he says he'll "turn over a new leaf," in my mind says a lot about how much Chopin knows of human nature. People in situations like that almost always stay because they want to forget the past and believe that no matter what things could get better. I could see the rose bushes or the broom being possible symbols.
I think Chopin is smartest when they are talking and she seems to be falling for the lawyer. She makes it seem as if she is wanting the divorce to be with him. She works her magic well. She played him and all along wasn't planning on getting that divorce. You could tell that the lawyer really liked her because I caught that he took off his regular coat and put on his Sunday coat. I am assuming he does this to impress her. That is the only symbol I found. Well done Chopin!
I think Chopin is quite intelligent when it comes to understanding people. Chopin knows that we are faced with hard decisions, such as a divorce, and we do look towards different options. However, we also tend to cling to that hope that it will work out in the end. This is clearly seen when Madame Celestin decides to not go through with the divorce. Even though Celestin's "better" option would be to get a divorce, she clings to the hope that their marriage will work out. She does not say that her husband stayed; she only states that he visited. I take this to mean that he left already. There could be a few symbols throughout the story, such as the rosebush, broom, and the pink bow. The rosebush could possibly represent her marriage, and how she is constantly working at it. On the other hand, as far as we can tell, the husband does nothing to "trim" the marriage. The pink ribbon could represent the lighthearted, seemingly whimsical nature of the woman. The broom could represent something along the lines of her working for her marriage once again. I find the end fairly comical, but more for its dark humor. Most of us can relate to sticking to an idea even when it seems illogical.
I believe Chopin is the smartest in the story when she tells the man that she is not getting a divorce. She writes it in a way that makes the reader chuckle because they were falling for her too. She leads on the lawyer acting as if she is getting a divorce when she is not. The lawyer imagines himself marrying her and over thinks the entire situation. Of course human nature makes the man fall for her, so in the end it is the lawyer getting played by Celestin.
The madame is quite the player of the field. She gets the lawyer to empathize with her plight as if he is her lawyer. I think with the way she goes on, her goal is to get the lawyer to like her. I think this because news will get out that she is thinking of divorce, and her husband will hear about it. I think Madame is using the lawyer to make her husband jealous. I think Chopin was the smartest in having the lawyer think up the divorce. That way he doesn't think that it is a bad idea because he thought of it. Madame can then just ride along with a few stories to make sure it sticks. I think the rose bushes are a symbol because the are beautiful but can prick you badly if you are not careful, same goes for the madame. I do find the ending funny. All along she just wanted attention and her husband to try in her marriage. Or the husband is not real and she just likes messing with men's minds.
The smartest part of the story is when the character goes through all of the tough obstacles in the way in order to get a divorce and in the end she withdraws from the judge in the end and it leads to a pretty comical ending. Celestin has control of the situation the whole story, yet the judge feels like he does when he is talking to her.
I think Chopin is smart in the story when she accurately portrays a woman playing a man. She knows the buttons to push and is having fun amusing herself with her husband away. With her husband gone she needs something to keep herself entertained. She is described as having a pink bow and nails and I think this brings out her girlish nature of taunting a boy. I thought the end was entertaining in the fact that she abruptly hit the lawyer with a doozy after he thought things were going well and he would have a wife soon. A man who is supposed to be educated was very well played by this Creole woman.
In this story, Chopin is the smartest when she wrote about how Madame Celestine won over the lawyer. I believe that she knew her husband wasn't a bad man, but just liked the company while he was gone. It was tricky, and Madame even got him to fall for her, then the woman played the man.. A symbol, might be her repetition of saying how she cant stand him. It symbolizes the reassurance factor that she needs. I laughed a little at the end just because I believe that she knew how it would end.
I believe Chopin is smartest in the story at the end. This is because, she gets us convinced that the Lawyer and Madame Celestin are going to end up together but then she drops the bomb that Madame Celestin no longer wants the divorce. Chopin's understanding of how people think is remarkable. The only symbol I found was the Lawyer dressing nicer to represent his desire to impress Madame Celestin. I found the ending funny and I did snicker to myself a little bit.
Andrews 6
It is very obvious that Madame Celestin has all the control throughout this short story. The lawyer wants her to get a divorce so he can be with her but she goes against what he says and stays with her horrible husband. I think it's ironic because this short story was probably written when women really didn't have any control or if they did it was a very small amount of control.
Guthmiller pd.6
I think Chopin is smartest in the story by making Madame Celestin seem dumb when, in fact, she is leading the judge on the whole time. This women who seems uneducated has the power over the well-educated man. I was very amused at the end.
Chopin is exceptionally smart and shows that the Madame Celestin is not confident in her decisions. She cannot make up her mind on her divorce and lets the word of others persuade her instead. I do not believe that Madame is truly happy in her life and struggles with putting her foot down. However, I find it funny that the lawyer seems to think he can just win her over with the signage of a divorce paper. Like hello, she is not a car.
I think that Kate Chopin is smartest when she is making decisions that she is not allowing people are around her to influence. She does not care that others are around her criticizing her actions. However, I do believe that she should value the opinion of some of her close friends and family. I do not mean she has to agree with them, but I do think so should at least think about their points and decide if she is going to follow them also. I think that Kate Chopin shows her brilliancy in multiple spots throughout that story. One example is at the end when the judge and women have their ironic talk at the of the story.
Chopin is most brilliant at the last paragraph of the story. The sentence within that paragraph that was the most brilliant was, "'You see, Judge, Celestin came home las'night. An' he's promise me on his word an' honor he's going to turn ova a new leaf.'" Chopin really understands how people work because even in today's society you see these kinds of issues and circumstances appearing. Madame Celestin complains about how her husband always promises things and never keeps his word, but when he does it again she falls for the same trap she has been falling for since she has been married. Today's world does this quite often, and the same result occurs almost every single time
I believe the smartest part of this story is the final page in which Madame Célestin gets lawyer Paxton's hopes up only to stay with her husband and forget about the divorce. A lot of people, myself sometimes included, tend to be overly optimistic about things that we know deep down are never going to happen. This characteristic optimism is displayed very well in -- let's call it what it is -- lawyer Paxton's crush on Madame Célestin.
I find the story a mix of funny and depressing at once because the general concept hits pretty close to home.
I believe that Chopin was making a point about control in this short story. In my opinion, Chopin portrayed Madame Celestin as unintelligent. She often mispronounced words, used poor grammar, and shortened the words she did say. The whole story the Lawyer Paxton is trying to tell Madame Celestin not to be convinced by other people to back out on her divorce. It seems as if Madame Celestin, a woman, therefore the inferior, is being controlled by men and superior figures in her life. However, at the end when Lawyer Paxton is lusting over Madame Celestin with hopes of marrying her, Madame shows that she has had contol of the lawyer the whole time through sexual flirtation. The sexual flirtation is shown by the symbol of the broom in the last paragraph. Men were not controlling her, she was controlling the man, Lawyer Paxton.
I believe that the smartest part of this story is all of it if I am allowed to say so. All of the story is written in a classic fashion where a conflict is introduced (even though it may be false) and there is a rising action where the lawyer expects that he is winning the woman over. The way that Chopin explains the way the lawyer is talking to the woman makes the reader forget that what the lawyer is doing is morally wrong. I found it humorous in the end realizing that the innocent looking woman out played a lawyer. I believe that the pink ribbon she wears around her neck symbolizes he look of innocence, but intelligence of mind.
I believe that Kate Chopin is smartest when she wrote the very last paragraph of her story. The lawyer is very hopeful that Madame Celestin is going to go through with the divorce and hopefully move on. The lawyer is falling in love with her and wants Madame Celestin to become his wife so that he can show her what true love is.
Chopin knows exactly how a woman's mind works. All women tell others that they are done and are going to move on, when they truly do not want to. Celestin comes back to her and she falls right back into his lie. He promises her he will change and she believes it, even though he wont. The lawyer will still be dreaming about her, and she will still be as miserable with Celestin as she was before; nothing will change.
In my mind, Chopin is smartest at the end of the story, in between when the lawyer is overly confident about having his way, so to speak, and the madame's announcement of giving up on the divorce. It's amusing, and really does make you snicker at the man in the end, even though he egged on doggedly, yet all was for naught. It's a rather entertaining story, taken in well spirits, as such a thing is so commonly seen and done and heard of in this day and age, the act of leading someone on, whether intentionally or not. That's really all I have to say about this story.
I believe that Kate Chopin's smartest part was the last paragraph. Chopin makes Madame Celetsin seem very dumb and cannot think for herself but at the end, Chopin shows the reader that Madame Celetsin has known all along that the judge has been trying to convince her to get a divorce so that he can have her as his own. Chopin is very cleaver with that little twist at the end.
In my mind, I believe that Chopin's smartest part in the story is when Madame Celestin changes her mind when Paxton finally decides to proclaim his true feelings. I think that this shows the common behavior for many people, not to be pesimistic, but most love stories are alike. Either a loved one dies, and it is too late, or they never truly express their feelings and it is too late. Although, in the movie world, a lot of the movies turn around and the couples get back together. I think that Chopin is showing the "real life" situation, and how this would actually play out. I didn't particularly find this story funny at all, I think that it is depressing. Everyone deserves love and it is sad to see/read something where a person doesn't
I believe Chopin is the smartest in the end of the story. She makes it evident that the lawyer wants to get with her quite bad. He keeps pushing the divorce and saying she needs to get one. She makes a believe that her and the lawyer will end up together, but then she tells the reader that she will not be getting a divorce any longer. I noticed that the lawyer tried dressing nice and working on his appearance to get her to fall for him, but in the end it does not work.
I believe that Chopin has the most clever writing in the last paragraph of the story. Just as the reader knows that the lawyer fancies Madame Celestin and wishes to possibly marry her, Madame Celestin quotes "Yes, I reckon you need n' mine. You see, Judge, Célestin came home las' night. An' he 's promise me on his word an' honor he 's going to turn ova a new leaf." This line made me laugh at the end because it portrays the reality of human nature and the naive thoughts of love.
I think that Kate Chopin is smartest in her very last paragraph of the story. Chopin has two sides of the story, Madam Celestin dreaming about her marriage and whether or not to keep it where as judge Paxton has become more aware of his appearance in an attempt to win Madam Celestin's heart, he dreams of marrying her. In the end, Madam Celestin turns down the divorce idea in a seemingly casual way. Madam Celestin speaks of how her husband came home and promised to change, yet earlier in the story, Paxton spoke of the numerous promises Celestin has made that are empty and worthless words.
I found the pink ribbon around Madam Celestin's throat to be a potential symbol. Celestin has her trapped in a way and will continue to hurt her so long as she stays with him.
Yes. The ending was amusing.
Chopin is the smartest in the last paragraph. In the beginning Paxton told her that she doesn't need to work then later on feels that he wants to marry Madame Celestin. He thinks that because he is a lawyer and has a good job that he is in control of the situation however, Madame Celestin is in control the whole time. The broom symbolizes sexual attraction between the two. The pink ribbon around her next could be see as a color to represent innocence. I laughed at the last part because Paxton got played.
The smartest part of the story is the whole thing. The story leads you to believe what you are imagining only to crush what you thought was going to happen in the end. Chopin does a good job of having Madame Celeste's seem dumb and uneducated. She leads us to believe that Madame is really getting a divorce and that her and Judge are going to end up together. The last paragraph is when everything turns and what you thought was going to happen doesn't. She goes back to her husband the one who has made too many promises that he has never fulfilled, as well as drinks. We were lead on to think that she wouldn't go back to her husband only to have him make a promise he will never keep to keep her with him.
Darrington 7
Chopin shows that she understands human behavior and interaction well when she describes the lawyer's thoughts about Madame Celestin. He feels as though she will want to marry him if he praises her and tells her all of her husband's wrongdoings. This is simply not true, as we see at the end of the story. I do not really laugh at the end of the story, as I have found myself in the lawyers position before, but I do see how he is foolish and laughable. The pink bow around Madame's neck may symbolize her affection/connection to her husband.
Huizenga 7
I believe that Chopin is the smartest when Madam Celestin is retelling of her facing off with other people in town. After each one Madam Celestin is more sure that she wants to be done with Celestin, but as soon as Celestin is there in person, she reverts right back to her old ways. I also found the subtle change in Madam Celestin's positioning the last time around to be ingenious. Normally she is sweeping the small gallery, probably working a little slower to talk to the judge, but the final time when her husband is back, she is already done with the gallery and is sweeping a different area. I did chuckle at the end of the story, with how Paxton's emotions are shown to grow and the ironic ending of him being shutdown completely is humorous. I do not think that the flippancy of human nature should be funny, yet somehow it is humorous.
Ripperda 7
Chopin is extremely intelligent in that after her multiple consultations Madame Celestin is still certain that she wants a divorce. The lawyer is also convinced that she will follow through with it, and therefore the reader is too. Except for the fact that her husband (predictably) decides to come home and tells her that he will change. We all know that he won't change. This happens so often in real life and Chopin is illustrating this for us. The story is a good one and the end is certainly entertaining.
I believe the part where Kate Chopin is smartest in this story is when Madame Celestial tells the lawyer she no longer wants the divorce. The broom could be a symbol of control, she has it in every conversation and even uses it to end one. I was amused at the end of the story, when she says she will not be getting a divorce since her husband said he would get better. It shows how she had control the whole time, for all we know nothing bad was happening and since her husband was back wanted to end the conversations.
I believe the smartest part of the story is at the end when Madame Celestin gets the lawyers hopes up, it is very obvious that he is love with her, and then shoots his hopes down by saying that Mr. Celestin has come home. I feel that the end of the book is very clever and is a very true thing, it is also rather amusing. The woman in the story is clearly leading the lawyer on so to make him like her just to let him down. Similarly to how Chopin might have liked to do to a man.
Throughout the entire story Chopin is very smart. In the end, she is the smartest. Throughout the story we believe that Madame Celestin is falling for the lawyer because he is going to be the one to save her in this awful marriage. However, Chopin surprises the reader by not getting a divorce and staying with Celestin. I did snicker at the end because she tempted him and lead him on the whole time. It shows how men have control over women by making Madame Celestin still stay with Celestin even though it is a bad relationship. I think the rose garden is a symbol as well.
Given that Chopin has the acute ability to accurately describe the waves of emotion associated with the strange idea we call human relationship, I struggle to find a portion of the story that is more "smart" than the rest. The whole story is so artfully and cleverly crafted that its entirety is intelligent.
The broom! That's definitely a symbol of the woman experience. Women are forced to sweep while "balancing the broom gracefully."
Yes, lots of snickers. Necessary.
Chopin is smart with her story when she shows how people are willing to do a lot for love. The lawyer is trying to convince this woman to divorce her husband so that he can have her for himself. I believe that the broom was a symbol of the control that men think they have over women. Celestin only stops sweeping when the man comes to the fence. The ending did not make me snicker because even though she tricked the man that was trying to get his way, I still think it wasn't right to lead him on.
Kate Chopin is smartest at the end of the story. Chopin shows her wits at the end of the story when she leads the lawyer to believe she would divorce her husband to be with him. He beleives that they will hook up when she divorces him. I laughed at the end because Paxton was tricked!
I believe Kate Chopin is smartest at the the end of the story. Throughout the whole story, Madame Celestin leads Paxton on telling him she wants to divorce her husband. This excites Paxton! But at the end of the story, Madame Celestin decides not to get a divorce. Chopin makes us think that Madame Celestin and Paxton will end up together at the end of the story but they don't. One symbol in the story is the broom. This story made me snicker in the end. I really enjoyed it!
Hillestad Pd. 7
Chopin is smartest when she has Madame Celestin decide not to divorce her husband. I fin it funny when Mrs. Celestin said not even the pope could change her mind and then the next day, she changes her mind. I thought it was very obvious but mean that Celestin was leading the lawyer on, but I also thought that the lawyer assuming she wanted to marry him was quite arrogant.
I find that Chopin is the most intelligent when she incorporates creole culture into the story by the close-knit community that Madame Celestin comes into. The community hinders and also supports the decisions that Madame Celestin makes. The community does not allow for her to be truly happy by allowing for her to divorce her long lost husband. They also give Madame Celestin the opportunity to work in order to support her two sons. Matriachary is prevalent in the story, and Celestin is a hard-working woman who can be independent but cannot simply because of social pressures. Divorce is also an obvious theme in the story. The broom handle included in the final and closing paragraph may represent some sort of sexual symbolism. I snickered a lot in the end, and I should because I am a teenage boy who over examines every word within a work of literature, so that the broom and the stubbornness of Celestin made me laugh.
I think that Kate Choplin is the smartest when she makes the lawyer begin to think that Madame Celestin will get divorced and marry him. She lets him think that she would marry him when she stayed married.
Chopin shows to be very smart within this story numerous times. Personally, I am more fond of the final scene where Madame Celestin clearly leaves the lawyer knowing the truth which is that she will be staying with her "awful" husband. I feel as though this is a modern day "friend-zone" as we talked of last week in class. Madame Celestin had no desire of being with the Lawyer at all. She wanted to play a game with him and lead him on. I didn't laugh at the end being as it is seemingly to be a gender reversal, but in modern day not really at all. This happens all the time! The only symbol I found to be relatively clear would be the broom.
2 Lundberg
I find this whole story humorous! Chopin is incredibly smart in this quaint tale because she knows the way people act in relationships. The Madame Celestin is in a poor relationship. In fact she hasn't even seen the man in over six months. Even though she knows that she deserves better AND even though she has told the lawyer she would leave him, she stays faithful to her husband. This happens so often in relationships because people find it easier to stay with an abusive lover than to start all over with someone else. When you have been with someone for a long time (regardless of how he/she treats you), you become accustomed to him/her. Leaving your lover, dating, and trying to start a new relationship requires a lot of vulnerability, inconvenience, and displeasure. This is why people stay in abusive relationship. I think Chopin is a genius to present the tale from the lawyer's side because it shows how ridiculous the madame is for staying faithful to her husband.
I found the last paragraph to be amusing because all along, I had believed the Mrs. Celestin was an unintelligent, bumbling woman and it turns out that she was a conniving sneak the entire time! Chopin wrote the entire story very smartly in a manner that showed her understanding (perhaps a tad bitter) of the flighty human heart. We see how selfish, unintelligent, and immoral we are by examining the flaws of Mr. and Mrs. Celestin and Lawyer Paxton.
Kate Chopin is smartest in the story at the end. It was amusing and ironic. I did not know if there were any symbols in the story. I did snicker at the end!
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